

Divorce etc... hosted by the exEXPERTS (T.H. and Jessica)
T.H. Irwin and Jessica Herzberg
T.H. and Jess are best friends who lived parallel lives - engaged a month apart, married a month apart, and after 13 yrs found out their husbands were cheating and traveling with their girlfriends as couples...for years!
Divorce etc... is a funny, uplifting, no-BS conversation with best friends who know how important friendship is during hard times. We've lived it, so we get it!
We ask the hard questions to lawyers, financial advisors, therapists, dating experts and anyone who can help you get through divorce. You don't know what you don't know, but we do!
@exexperts (TikTok, IG, FB)
Divorce etc... is a funny, uplifting, no-BS conversation with best friends who know how important friendship is during hard times. We've lived it, so we get it!
We ask the hard questions to lawyers, financial advisors, therapists, dating experts and anyone who can help you get through divorce. You don't know what you don't know, but we do!
@exexperts (TikTok, IG, FB)
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Sep 28, 2022 • 22min
What IS an Asset? Do You Know What to Include During Divorce? | S2, Ep. 62
You may not even think you have any assets, or not know what they are, but you need to protect them in your divorce! Your home, car, money in the bank, jewelry, artwork, furniture - pretty much anything you own is an asset. How and when to divide your assets is a part of the divorce process that can get complicated and messy, and it can cause a lot of anger and resentment as each spouse wants to be sure they're getting their fair share. There are actually many ways to split things up - it's not always just half of everything, and believe it or not there are ways to work through this process that can make things far more manageable. You have to hear this episode in order to know what's worth protecting and how! *New law update: in NY there is now a "best interest of the pets" standard. (Guest: Gabriella Formosa, Family Law Attorney)
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Sep 18, 2022 • 30min
Is a Private Investigator Someone You Need For Divorce? | S2, Ep. 61
Conventional wisdom says if you have suspicions that you need a private investigator for your divorce, then you likely do. Just keep in mind that the laws in your state may not "give" you anything more even if your spouse has cheated. Many states are no-fault, meaning infidelity won't factor into your divorce settlement, in terms of money. However, information like that may still help you with negotiations, because there may be reasons your spouse wants to keep it quiet. Also, if you are already divorced and you are the one paying spousal support, knowing whether your ex has moved in with a new significant other may reduce the amount you are obligated to pay, plus if your ex is not spending their time with your children, you may be able to change the custody situation. Knowing how a private investigator could help you with your divorce is important, and this episode lays out all the details and what you need to know. (Guest: Jan Barefoot, Private Investigator)
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Sep 8, 2022 • 36min
How to Find Hidden Money in Divorce | S2, Ep. 60
Finding money that your spouse may have hidden during your marriage is a daunting prospect, but one that often times is worth the time and effort - and money - to discover. You don't always need a forensic accountant to do it, a valuation expert may be a better choice for you, depending on your situation. A valuation expert can look at things differently than a forensic, and with their knowledge and expertise, they can tell you whether or not you should go looking for hidden funds. We had an in-depth interview all about what you need to know and why the risk may very well be worth the rewards. (Guest: Melissa Gragg, Valuation Expert and Managing Partner, Bridge Valuation Partners)
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Sep 7, 2022 • 29min
How to Get Ready For Your First Dates After Divorce | S2, Ep. 59
We've said it before and we'll say it again, dating after divorce can be scary! You may feel insecure, you may not feel ready to actually experience intimacy with someone else yet - or you may be more than ready to get out there and get back in the game! No matter which way you're feeling, internationally renowned relationship expert Susan Winter has got lots of advice. From what your (and their) expectations should be, to how to broach sensitive topics like your divorce and/or kids, and even how and when a first kiss should happen, this is an episode you have to hear if you're back to dating post-divorce! (Guest: Susan Winter, Author and Relationship Expert)
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Sep 7, 2022 • 30min
Narcissist vs. Asshole: Healing After Divorcing a Narcissist (Part 2) | S2, Ep. 58
Understanding the difference between a true narcissist vs an asshole is an important distinction - it came have a profound impact on almost every aspect of your divorce, as well as how you can manage the process. There are personality traits that people can exhibit which may make it easy to consider them a narcissist, but in actuality, stats show less than 5% of people really have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Either way, there are specific things that you need to know, which will help you move forward in a way that won't be as harmful to YOU. Once you understand who you're dealing with in your divorce, you will learn strategies and ways to handle your divorce and beyond. (Ina Hansen, Bestselling Author and Coach)
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Sep 7, 2022 • 35min
Narcissist vs. Asshole: There IS a Difference (Part 1) | S2, Ep. 57
Do you think you're divorcing (or did divorce) a narcissist? You may think the telltale signs were on display: doesn't seem to care about anyone but themselves; they're full of themselves; they're only really concerned about their own happiness and how things affect them. Professionals may agree these are narcissistic tendencies, but there is a lot more when it comes to a person being an actual narcissist. Otherwise, your ex may just be an asshole. In part 1 of our two part episode, you're going to have a clearer understanding of what a true narcissist is and whether or not that's what you're dealing with, along with how to tell the difference between a narcissist vs an asshole. (Ina Hansen, Bestselling Author and Life Coach)
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Aug 29, 2022 • 42min
What Can a Retired Judge Teach You About Divorce? | S2, Ep.56
Retired Judge Ronny Jo Siegal shares valuable insights on divorce court proceedings, emphasizing the importance of support during legal battles. Topics include myths about telling your story, judge's perspectives, courtroom etiquette, managing emotions, and the impact of legal representation in divorce cases.

Aug 18, 2022 • 49min
How to Help Your Kids Struggling with Mental Illness | S2, Ep.54
As if divorce wasn't challenging enough, going through it all while helping a child with special needs can add an extra layer of stress and difficulty. T.H. and exEXPERT Rebecca Stern recently spoke about their personal experiences with their sons to the group "Other Parents Like Us". This event was so impactful and informative, and we are airing this episode to help even more parents dealing with these issues, so you all know you aren't alone.
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Aug 15, 2022 • 27min
Understanding Your Value In Order To Get The Salary You Deserve | S2, Ep.53
Divorce is a time of negotiation over many things in your life, and a common time to reevaluate your place at work, or even find a new job. Trying to determine how much money you should make can be challenging, but it's imperative that you first understand your value and what you're "worth" so that you aren't underselling yourself. This episode answers all of your questions about how to figure out what you should be asking for and how, no matter if it's at your current job or in the search for something new (even if you haven't worked prior to your divorce). (Guest: Jenifer Barkon, HR Executive)
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Aug 8, 2022 • 32min
The Negative Voice In Your Head Lies! Time to Fire Your Inner Narrator | S2, Ep.52
You've heard experts say you should talk to yourself the way you talk to your best friend - but do you? Or do you have an inner voice that makes you feel bad about being divorced and "failing" at marriage, and makes you feel like a bad parent or that you just aren't good enough in so many other ways? In this episode, 10-time Emmy winner and author, Valerie Gordon, explains the most important skills you need in order to stop criticizing yourself and move forward with ease and grace. You'll learn how to get out of your head, stop second guessing yourself and end the process of always overthinking past mistakes. This is a conversation everyone needs to hear! (Guest: Valerie Gordon, Author "Fire Your Narrator!: A Storyteller's Guide to Getting Out of Your Head and Into Your Life")
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