

The Other Way
Kasia Stiggelbout
Hello and welcome to The Other Way, a women's lifestyle podcast that explores uncommon, unconventional, or alternative approaches in life, health, spirituality, and work. Here, you can expect real, raw conversations with founders, researchers, trailblazers, experts in medicine, spiritual teachers, and all-around inspiring humans on the journey of doing things our way. It may not be “the way,” but it is the other way. So, if you’re like us and feel called to listen to that deeper voice - you’re in the right place. Welcome.
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Mentioned books

Jun 27, 2023 • 1h 2min
043: Dr. Heidi Lovie on combating Hashimoto's: Insights from Western Medicine & Chinese Medicine
Are you struggling with Hashimoto's thyroid disease? This episode is a must-listen, as I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Heidi Lovie, a renowned expert in Hashimoto's and Chinese medicine practitioner with over 20 years of clinical experience. As someone who personally suffers from this condition, Dr. Lovie provides invaluable insights on managing Hashimoto's from both Western and Chinese medicine perspectives.We cover a wide range of topics, including the connection between the immune system and Hashimoto's, potential causes of this autoimmune disease, and how it may evolve over time. Dr. Lovie also shares her personal experience with Hashimoto's, her journey through perimenopause, and the challenges faced by many individuals with this condition, such as traditional gender roles and societal expectations.Join us as we delve into the world of thyroid health, and discuss the importance of finding the right medication, healthcare practitioner, and lifestyle changes to manage Hashimoto's effectively. Whether you've just be diagnosed or are seeking further insights, this episode will provide valuable information and guidance on your journey to better thyroid health.To connect with Dr. Lovie
Instagram: @loviehealing
https://www.lovieacupuncture.com/
Mentioned on our episode:
Qi Logical Podcast
Lanshin Gua Sha

Jun 13, 2023 • 1h 2min
042: Embracing Authenticity: Navigating Life Transitions and Personal Growth
Have you ever felt the urge to redefine yourself and make a significant life change? In a candid conversation with George from the True Life podcast, we explore the challenges and rewards of embracing authenticity and navigating big life transitions. Listen in as I share my personal journey of leaving a corporate job and the emotional roller coaster that comes with rediscovering who I am and what I want to do.We discuss the importance of finding the right environment and people to support our journey of self-discovery. Delving into the fear of change and the insecurity that comes with making life pivots, George and I share our experiences and how we have learned to accept and embrace these transitions for our own growth and development.Drawing inspiration from Chinese medicine, our conversation emphasizes the importance of integrating our mind, body, and spirit, as well as the merging of Eastern and Western philosophies. We hope that our thought-provoking discussion will resonate with anyone going through major shifts in their lives, inspiring you to recognize the interconnectedness of all things and find a way to bridge the gap between the analytical and the symbolic. Join us on this journey and let your authentic self shine.Check out the original podcast episode on TrueLife:
Listen here or on Spotify
Watch on YouTube
Huge shoutout & thank you to George Monty for this amazing conversation!

May 30, 2023 • 1h 2min
041: Ex-Navy SEAL Christopher Maher on healing trauma + integrating spiritually
Christopher Maher is a former US Navy SEAL who endured intense physical, mental, and emotional stress as a SEAL and child. He's combined a “SEAL team mindset” with modern stress resolution strategies, to free his body, mind, and emotions from pain, tension, and emotional distortion. He developed subtractive tools for eliminating unresolved stress, tension, and emotional contortment. Christopher studied Traditional Chinese Medical Practices at the Pacific College of Oriental Medicine and at Yo San University before continuing his studies at The Universal Healing Tao System.We cover:
What a working as a Navy Seal and Traditional Chinese Medicine have in common
The way trauma integrates into your body + how to heal from it
The importance of choosing to heal + how it MIGHT not always be easier
What spiritual arrogance looks like
Integrating Navy Seal principles with mindfulness, spirituality, and awareness
Christopher’s journey of going from a Navy seal to reintegration as a civilian: reprogramming the beliefs we have around our own identities
Practices to balance striving with contentment
Finding trust in Universal intelligence
Presence and mindfulness as applied to the real world
To connect with Christopher:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truebodyintelligence/
Free for Life book

May 22, 2023 • 56min
040: Seasonal living according to Traditional Chinese Medicine: Summer with Anne Woods LAc, MSTCM
Anne Woods is a licensed acupuncturist and herbalist in San Francisco. Her approach to modern medicine is gentle and empowering. Rooted in ancient healing modalities such as acupuncture and Eastern medicine, therapeutic movement, nutrition counseling, and herbal medicine, she believes we can teach the physical, emotional, and spiritual body to achieve balance. Anne has a passion for helping people with acute and chronic pain, digestive disorders, hormone imbalances, natural skincare, and stress. Her intention is to help people feel vibrant and alive in their bodies so they can live fully, with peace in their heart and mind. She has been teaching yoga for over 14 years in a variety of styles. When she is not in the clinic, Anne enjoys spending time in the ocean, tending her garden, ceramics, and cooking up nourishing dinners with friends and family.
💫 We cover :
Seasons living according to Chinese Medicine
Understanding the transition into summer
Summer: element, color, emotions
Imbalance vs. IN-balance for the summer season
Understanding the summer constitution: fire
Patterns in Chinese Medicine associated with the summer season
Foods for summer - including cold food (how much is too much?!)
Movement for the summer season
Skincare for summer
SO MUCH MORE
💫 Mentioned on today’s podcast:
Episode 1 on seasonal living
The new BLOG!
The Garden Wellness shop
Seasonal Zines
💫 To connect with Anne:
The Garden SF (wellness clinic)
Instagram
Spotify

May 16, 2023 • 40min
039: Mindfulness for Type A people with Zen teacher, author, & 3x CEO, Marc Lesser
Marc Lesser is a CSO, executive coach, and Zen teacher known for his engaging, experiential presentations that integrate mindfulness and emotional intelligence practices and training. He is the CEO of ZBA Associates, an executive development and leadership consulting company, with a client roster that includes Google, Twitter, Genentech, San Francisco Airport, Kaiser Permanente, Global Fund for Women, and Beneficial State Bank.
He founded and was CEO of three highly successful companies and has an MBA degree in business from New York University. Prior to his business and coaching career, he was a resident of the San Francisco Zen Center for ten years, and director of Tassajara, Zen Mountain Center, the first Zen monastery in the Western world.
Marc helped develop the world-renowned Search Inside Yourself program within Google – a mindfulness-based emotional intelligence training for leaders which teaches the art of integrating mindfulness, emotional intelligence, and business savvy for creating great corporate cultures and a better world. Deeply rooted in science, the program has been taught to thousands of executives worldwide. Building on the success of the Search Inside Yourself program, Marc founded and served as CEO for 5 years of the Search Inside Yourself Leadership Institute, which offers programs, tools and content on mindfulness-based emotional intelligence, empathy, compassion, resilience, leadership with training programs in over 50 countries.
Marc’s books include Finding Clarity: How Compassionate Accountability Builds Vibrant Relationships, Thriving Workplaces, and Meaningful Lives, Seven Practices of a Mindful Leader: Lessons from Google and a Zen Monastery Kitchen, Know Yourself, Forget Yourself, Less: Accomplishing More By Doing Less, and Z.B.A. Zen of Business Administration.
💫 We cover :
Striving vs. surrendering
How to be both competitive and ambitious but also practice Zen
The difference between compassion vs. “positive thinking” when it comes to success
The science behind self empathy vs. affirmations when it comes to success
Compassionate accountability: what it looks like in the workplace
Mission driven leadership
How to tap back into your mission if you’ve lost it
Plus SO much more!
💫 Mentioned in this episode:
Marc’s new book: Finding Clarity: How Compassionate Accountability Builds Vibrant Relationships
Kristin Neff
Search inside yourself leadership program from Google
💫 To connect with Marc:
https://marclesser.net/
https://marclesser.net/zen-bones-podcast/
https://www.instagram.com/marclesser/ on Instagram
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-lesser-zba/

May 9, 2023 • 60min
038: Science & energetics behind sound healing w/ Tess Palma-Martinez
Sound healer Tess Palma-Martinez discusses the science and energetics behind sound healing, emphasizing the power of trusting the universe, exploring spiritual bypass vs. healing, tapping into authenticity, and the importance of vulnerability and communal support. The podcast also dives into the concept of forced resonance vs. free resonance, creating your own magic, and the role of sound healing in bringing the body into harmony.

May 2, 2023 • 52min
037: Integrating spirituality while building an internationally renowned business w/ Udo Erasmus of Udo's Choice
The legendary Udo Erasmus is the co-founder of Udo’s Choice line, which can be found in Whole Foods and other health food stores worldwide. Udo designed the machinery for making oils with health in mind and pioneered flax oil, a billion dollar industry. However, Udo walked a difficult path to become the man he is today. Being a child of war, Udo’s life began with intense struggle. As an adult, he got pesticide poisoning in 1980, leaving doctors at a loss regarding treatment. Deciding to take his health into his own hands, Udo began researching, and his discoveries led him to a passion for finding the answers to life’s big questions which would hopefully one day bring him and the world peace.
Today, Udo is an acclaimed speaker and author of many books, including the best-selling Fats That Heal Fats That Kill, which has sold over 250,000 copies. He teaches at events hosted by Tony Robbins and Deepak Chopra, has keynoted an international brain health conference, and has traveled to over 30 countries to conduct thousands of live presentations, media interviews, and staff trainings impacting more than 25,000,000 lives with his message on oils, health, peace, nature, and human nature. Udo has an extensive education in biochemistry, genetics, biology, and nutrition, including a master’s degree in counseling psychology.
💫 We cover :
Heart Led vs. mind-led leadership
The backstory behind Udo’s Choice, available in Whole Foods and stores world wide
Going from “striving” and “burnout” to sustainable energy that is deeply connected to source
Udo’s background as a child of war and refugee, and how he’s gotten through the trauma to build trust in the universe and his own path
Allowing your health struggles to be the path, vs. the obstacle
How to build a super successful business as a deeply mindful leader
Ways to move from imposter syndrome, fear, and doubts → forever
Tapping into your inspiration and authentic voice
Going against the grain as an entrepreneur
Building a mindful practice
+ so much more!
💫 To connect with Udo :
Udo’s choice
https://udoerasmus.com/
@UdoErasmus
Linkedin

Apr 25, 2023 • 58min
036: Trauma, shame, EMDR therapy, & authentic leadership w/ Tyler Beaty, CEO of Sero Health
Tyler Beaty is an entrepreneur, human-centered designer, and the co-founder and CEO of Sero health. With over 10 years of experience building tech ventures, Tyler’s portfolio includes some impressive achievements such as completing the renowned Draper University entrepreneurship program and working as a brand strategist with tech startups where he worked on world-changing problems such as impacting world hunger via insect protein, improving connection via virtual reality, and building defense systems against drone attacks. However, despite some perfect on paper milestones, it was his own deeply human life experience around mental health that shaped his passion and path with his latest and most meaningful venture, Sero.
After suffering from burnout, overwhelm, and ADHD while scaling his digital design agency he started to notice how his mental wellbeing affected everything, including his physical health. He was diagnosed with GERD, depression, substance abuse, and anxiety, but it was only after coming face to face with suicidality that he knew he had to make a serious change. Lifestyle changes to help bring balance were supportive but it wasn’t until he discovered EMDR therapy that he witnessed breakthroughs. Once he realized how powerful yet inaccessible EMDR therapy was, he knew he had to make a dent in the problem. With that, he Co-Founded Sero, a remote-first, accessible platform and product for EMDR therapy.
Today, Tyler is a passionate advocate for PTSD treatment, mental health awareness, and living life as a balanced human. In between working you can find Tyler spending time with his beautiful wife, practicing breathwork, or enjoying nature in California.
💫 We cover :
What is PTSD?
What is trauma treatment so important?
What is EMDR therapy: how does it work & why is it effective
Tyler’s personal story with PTSD + how it influenced his career, relationships, and purpose
The difference between PTSD and trauma + anxiety in general
The importance of “reprogramming” memories that are causing you a traumatic response - for healing
The danger of “self diagnosis” via social media + more
The importance of tapping into your AUTHENTIC alignment - releasing shame and negative self talk for healing
The physiological brain changes around trauma
Understanding neuroplasticity for healing
+ So much more
💫 Mentioned in this episode:
According to the National Center for PTSD, about 6 of every 10 men (or 60%) and 5 of every 10 women (or 50%) experience at least one trauma in their lives.
💫 To connect with Tyler:
https://twitter.com/tylerbeaty_
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tbeaty/
https://www.hellosero.com/

Apr 11, 2023 • 8min
035: SOLO EP: breaking perfectionism, my wedding, & embodying presence
Another solo episode! Well, kind of :) in honor of my original commitment with this podcast, I'm deciding to skip a week of "official episodes" with a quick wedding update. This is a challenge for me as I had episodes ready... but it felt so WEIRD and curated to post while I'm legit.. offline! Anyway, tap to listen for the update or skip and see you next time! Kasia’s Bio:
Entrepreneur, podcaster, and student of Chinese Medicine, Kasia is on a mission to inspire others to discover their innate authenticity, balance, and holistic health by applying principles of Yin (spirituality) & Yang (activity, productivity) in balance to their own lives. Kasia is excited to finally combine her interests in mindfulness, spirituality, nutrition, personal development, and East Asian medicine into a heart-powered show dedicated to supporting each and every listener.
💫 We cover :
A wedding update!
Embodying presence
Breaking up w. that urge for perfection
Real vs. curated content (my take)

Mar 28, 2023 • 46min
034: Circadian rhythm, immune/metabolism/brain health, & how light impacts sleep with Dr. Jamie Zeitzer
Zeitzer is an Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University, as well as the co-Director of the Center for Sleep and Circadian Sciences. He completed his undergraduate degree in biology at Vassar College before receiving a PhD in neurobiology from Harvard University.
💫 We cover :
What is the circadian rhythm and why is it important
The different types of “rhythms” within your body; per organ
The link between your circadian rhythm and diabetes, your immune function, and even neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimers
Social jetlag: what is it and why it is bad for your health
Light therapy: what is it and why it is so important for good sleep and a healthy, functioning circadian rhythm
The negative physiological effects of staying up past your innate sleep time
Ideal sleep x wake cycle vs. erratic sleep cycle
Understanding “how much light” to get every day
The differences between “outdoor” light vs. inside light
How too much sleep deprivation actually creates an “immunity” to sleepiness
Dr. Zeitzer's sleep routine :)
+ so much more
💫 To connect with Dr. Zeitzer :
https://profiles.stanford.edu/jamie-zeitzer
💫 Mentioned in this episode:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4212693/