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Shelley Appleby-Ostroff
Are you a lawyer looking to excel in today’s legal profession? Join host Shelley Appleby-Ostroff, legal talent development consultant and writing coach, as she talks to successful lawyers and leading industry experts who share their knowledge, insights, and advice on topics like: increasing productivity; overcoming perfectionism; developing a personal brand; improving communication skills; building client relationships – and much more.
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Apr 28, 2021 • 32min
Strategizing Like a Trial Lawyer with John Hollander
Litigator, author, and trainer – John Hollander – shares his expertise about trial advocacy. John teaches trial advocacy techniques to law students and is the founder of the Advocacy Club, where he trains novice lawyers to become skilled advocates.
Topics discussed include:
The hallmarks of a successful trial lawyerHow trial lawyers think and planCase analysisDeveloping a theory, and theme, of your caseTelling the story of your case persuasively
To learn more about John and the Advocacy Club, visit https://www.advocacyclub.ca/
This episode contains 30 minutes of Professionalism Content
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Apr 14, 2021 • 51min
Writing Effective Legal Memos with Neil Guthrie
Neil Guthrie – author of the popular legal writing text, Guthrie’s Guide to Better Legal Writing – shares his advice and practical tips for writing effective legal memos. Neil’s the Director of Professional Development, Research and Knowledge Management at Aird & Berlis in Toronto; a former practicing lawyer; and a legal research and writing instructor.
Topics discussed include:
Why lawyers write memos
What distinguishes a good memo from a great one
Common memo writing challenges
Tips for writing the different parts of a memo
The second edition of Neil’s book will be published on April 15/21. Click this link for more information: Guthrie’s Guide to Better Legal Writing, Second Edition.
This episode contains 50 minutes of Professionalism content.
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Mar 31, 2021 • 28min
Conquering Office Clutter with Ruth Carter

Mar 17, 2021 • 30min
The Changing Landscape of Tribunal Proceedings with Jennifer Khurana

Mar 3, 2021 • 34min
Retirement Coaching for Lawyers with Sheena MacAskill

Feb 17, 2021 • 52min
Shining as a Virtual Presenter and Trainer with Lisa Braithwaite

Feb 3, 2021 • 42min
Building Confidence at Work with Olivia Mitchell

Jan 20, 2021 • 51min
Sleeping Well with Dr. Elliott Lee

Jan 6, 2021 • 44min
Mastering Virtual Meetings and “Feedback” Conversations with Deborah Glatter
Legal management and training consultant, Deborah Glatter, shares her expertise about meetings and associate feedback in our new virtual world.
Topics discussed include:
Preparing to attend a virtual meeting
Preparing to lead a virtual meeting
Ensuring that virtual meetings are effective and worthwhile
Getting people to participate in virtual meetings
Delivering, eliciting, and receiving feedback in a virtual world
To learn more about Deborah and her work, visit Deborah’s website.
This episode contains 40 minutes of Professionalism content.
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Dec 23, 2020 • 52min
Stepping into Difficult Conversations with Rick Weiler
Rick Weiler – one of Canada’s foremost commercial mediators – shares his expertise and advice about navigating difficult conversations. Topics discussed include:
Key ingredients of a good conversation
Habits we should develop in order to have more productive and effective difficult conversations
Preparing for difficult conversations
Managing reactions in difficult conversations
Techniques for getting derailed conversations back on track
To learn more about Rick and his work, visit Rick’s website.
Additional Resources
Here are links to some of the resources Rick mentioned during our discussion:
The Conflict Resolution Toolbox by Gary Furlong
When the Body Says No by Gabor Maté
Getting Past No: How to Have Conversations that Matter by William Ury
And here are a couple of other resources Rick suggested after our discussion:
Effective Difficult Conversations: A Step-by-Step Guide by Catherine Soehner and Ann Darling
We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations that Matter by Celeste Headlee
This episode contains 50 minutes of Professionalism content.
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And don’t forget to rate and review the XL Legal Podcast.


