

XL Legal
Shelley Appleby-Ostroff
Are you a lawyer looking to excel in today’s legal profession? Join host Shelley Appleby-Ostroff, legal talent development consultant and writing coach, as she talks to successful lawyers and leading industry experts who share their knowledge, insights, and advice on topics like: increasing productivity; overcoming perfectionism; developing a personal brand; improving communication skills; building client relationships – and much more.
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Feb 1, 2023 • 33min
Optimizing our Mental Fitness with Cory Chadwick
Cory Chadwick, founder of The Mental Gym, discusses how working out our minds – like we work out our bodies – enables us to think, feel, make decisions, and perform at our best. Cory’s a mental fitness and performance coach who’s passionate about helping all of us build the essential habits and mindset to achieve optimal mental fitness.
Topics discussed include:
What The Mental Gym is and isn’t
Defining mental fitness
How The Mental Gym works
The essentials of “Living Your 10”
To learn more about Cory and The Mental Gym, visit www.mentalgymlife.com
Or connect with Cory directly on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/cory-chadwick
This episode contains 35 minutes of Professionalism Content.
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Jan 18, 2023 • 40min
Humanizing the Practice of Law with Quinn Ross
“Changemaker” Quinn Ross describes how his firm is humanizing the practice of law by doing things differently. Quinn is the managing partner and CEO of the Ross Firm; and chair of the Law Society of Ontario’s Futures Committee. Quinn was also named as one of the Top 25 Most Influential Lawyers for 2022 – in the Changemaker Category.
Topics discussed include:
Creating a culture of abundance
Moving to a four-day workweek
Problems with the billable hour model
Advice for firms contemplating some of the changes the Ross Firm has made
This episode contains 40 minutes of Professionalism Content.
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Jan 4, 2023 • 37min
The Art of Effective Delegation with Deborah Glatter
Legal management and training consultant extraordinaire, Deborah Glatter, shares her expertise and advice about effective delegation for lawyers. Deborah’s a former practising lawyer and partner of a national law firm, where she was responsible for the professional development and management of its lawyers for many years.
Topics discussed include:
What delegation is and isn’t
Why lawyers should delegate
How to delegate – and be delegated to – effectively
Barriers to effective delegation
To learn more about Deborah and her work, visit Deborah’s website or reach out to her directly at info@deborahglatter.com
This episode contains 40 minutes of Professionalism Content.
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Dec 14, 2022 • 39min
Emotional Intelligence for Lawyers with Alexandra Overchuk
Alexandra Overchuk shares her expertise and advice about emotional intelligence (EI) for lawyers. Alex is a talent management consultant to accountants and lawyers, and is certified in EQ-i 2.0 – the world’s leading measure of EI.
Topics discussed include:
What EI is
Why lawyers should care about EI
Assessing EI, with and without a psychometric tool
EQ-i 2.0
When would you use it?
What are the benefits of using it?
Why are people skeptical of it?
Ways to develop and strengthen EI
To learn more about Alex and her work, visit Alexandra Overchuk Consulting.
This episode contains 40 minutes of Professionalism Content.
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Nov 30, 2022 • 40min
Healthy Eating for Busy Lawyers with Rachel Caven
Rachel Caven shares her expertise and advice about healthy eating for busy lawyers. Rachel’s Canada’s expert nutritionist, and Owner and Clinic Director of Caven Nutrition in Ottawa. She’s also a sought-after speaker who’s on a mission to educate all of us about how eating well can be easy, and improve our health and quality of life.
Topics discussed include:
Benefits of healthy eating
Why we should drink water first thing in the morning – and before drinking coffee
How breakfast sets our day up for success
Why it’s important to eat the right amount of protein at every meal
Easy meal preparation options and meal planning ideas
“Decision fatigue” and other barriers to healthy eating
You can learn more about Rachel and her work here:
Caven Nutrition Group website
Instagram
Facebook
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Nov 16, 2022 • 40min
Supporting Workplace Health & Wellbeing with Marla Warner
Marla Warner shares her expertise and advice about supporting workplace health and wellbeing. Marla’s a health, resilience, and leadership coach who helps organizations and individuals build positive, supportive workplace cultures that enhance resilience, productivity, and mental health.
Topics discussed include:
Marla’s work as a health, resilience, and leadership coach in the legal profession
The impact of associate wellbeing on a law firm
The role law firm leaders play in fostering a workplace culture of wellbeing
How law firms can support their associates’ health and wellbeing
Building habits that stick
To learn more about Marla and her work, visit For Health Wellbeing Solutions, or reach out to her on LinkedIn.
This episode contains 40 minutes of Professionalism Content
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Nov 2, 2022 • 43min
Writing Emails Worth Reading with Stephanie C. Mitchell
Stephanie C. Mitchell shares her expertise and advice about writing effective professional email. Stephanie’s a communication coach and professional speaker who helps lawyers, judges, and other professionals communicate more clearly.
Topics discussed include:
What’s wrong with the way lawyers write email
Leading from the top
Taking advantage of the subject line
Fighting against the negativity bias
Maintaining a consistent tone
Knowing when to end an email chain
Using email to build professional relationships
To learn more about Stephanie and her work, visit her website.
This episode contains 45 minutes of Professionalism Content
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Jun 1, 2022 • 53min
The Do Nothing Revolution with Celeste Headlee
Celeste Headlee shares her expertise and advice about the “Do Nothing Revolution”. Celeste’s an award-winning journalist, long-time radio host, professional speaker and author of the bestselling books We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations That Matter and Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving.
Topics discussed include:
What inspired Celeste to write Do Nothing
The “busyness delusion”
The “cult of efficiency”
Why task switching isn’t efficient
Problems with time-based billing
Strategies to help lawyers break their addiction to false efficiency
To learn more about Celeste and her work, visit: celesteheadlee.com and headwaytraining.org
This episode contains 55 minutes of Professionalism Content
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May 18, 2022 • 25min
Writing Engaging Law Firm E-Newsletters with Michelle Troutman
Michelle Troutman shares her tips for writing engaging law firm e-newsletters. Michelle owns Classy Writing, a business that specializes in creating e-newsletters and ghostwriting blog posts for law firms and other professional services firms.
Topics discussed include:
Differences between a blog and an e-newsletter
Common challenges in writing law firm e-newsletters
Practical tips for engaging with your audience
What to include in a law firm e-newsletter
Targeting the different stages of your client’s/buyer’s journey
To learn more about Michelle and her work, visit classywriting.com and request a free e-newsletter audit
This episode contains 30 minutes of Professionalism Content
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May 4, 2022 • 1h 7min
50 Lessons for Happy Lawyers with Nora Bergman and Chelsy Castro
Legal coaches and former practicing attorneys, Nora Bergman and Chelsy Castro, talk about their soon-to-be-released book – 50 Lessons for Happy Lawyers: Research-based Strategies to Increase your Personal and Professional Happiness.
Topics discussed include:
What inspired Nora and Chelsy to write 50 Lessons for Happy Lawyers
Happiness
What it is
Its benefits
How to cultivate it
Lawyer burnout
Warning signs
Consequences
How to prevent it, or deal with it if you have it
Resilience
What it is
Why it matters
Strategies to develop it
The “one thing that can change everything”
To learn more about Nora, Chelsy, and their new book visit 50lessonsforhappylawyers.com
This episode contains 1 hour and 10 minutes of Professionalism Content
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