
Stronger Marriage Connection
It's often said that marriage takes work. The Stronger Marriage Connection podcast wants to help because a happy marriage is worth the effort. USU Family Life Professor Dr. Dave Schramm and Clinical Psychologist Dr. Liz Hale talk with experts about the principles and practices that will enhance your commitment, compassion, and emotional connection. More than ever before, marriages face obstacles, from the busyness of work and daily hassles to disagreements and digital distractions. It's no wonder couples sometimes drift apart, growing resentful, lonely, and isolated.The Utah Marriage Commission invites you to listen and discover new ways to strengthen and protect your marriage connection today!
Latest episodes

Jun 16, 2025 • 48min
Resilience in Marriage: Navigating Stressors Together | Nathan Leonhardt | 137
How do you transform relationship challenges into opportunities for growth? What does it mean to truly flourish together beyond mere happiness? When hardship strikes, what separates couples who crumble from those who emerge stronger?Dr. Nathan Lenhart, assistant professor at Brigham Young University and author of "The Science of Virtue," tackles these profound questions with refreshing clarity. He introduces the concept of "capital R Resilience" versus "lowercase r resilience" – distinguishing between transformative crucible experiences and smaller but meaningful gains from everyday challenges.Through the practical ABCX model (Stressor + Resources + Perception = Stress Response), Dr. Lenhart unpacks how couples can navigate everything from cancer diagnoses to daily work-family conflicts. He emphasizes that our resources (community support, extended family) and especially our perception of events dramatically affect our resilience trajectory. As he poignantly notes, sometimes the question isn't "why did this happen?" but rather "how can we make the most of this time together?"The conversation deepens as Dr. Lenhart challenges our culture's fixation on happiness and satisfaction, which he describes as "fragile" and often "hollow" when pursued individualistically. Instead, he advocates for relationship flourishing – characterized by meaning, belonging, and growth – as a more stable foundation that withstands life's inevitable storms. His cross-cultural research reveals how Americans who chase happiness often end up less fulfilled than those in more relationally-focused cultures, suggesting our approach to happiness itself might need recalibrating.Perhaps most thought-provoking is Dr. Lenhart's assertion that virtues like gratitude, forgiveness, and humility underlie truly successful relationships, more fundamental than even communication skills. "It doesn't matter how effectively you're communicating if you're communicating your distaste for each other," he observes. His recommendation to find inspiring relationships to emulate acknowledges that transformation often begins with inspiration rather than instruction.Whether you're facing acute trauma or chronic stressors in your relationship, this episode offers both practical frameworks and profound wisdom. Listen now to discover how you can not just survive challenges together, but genuinely flourish through them.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Jun 9, 2025 • 1h 3min
Why Being Nice Kills Passion (And What To Do Instead) | Alexandra Stockwell | #136
Dr. Alexandra Stockwell shares her journey from physician to intimacy coach and reveals how couples can create passionately intimate marriages through authenticity rather than compromise. She offers transformative insights on cultivating everyday eroticism, communicating with kindness, and deepening emotional connection to enhance sensual experiences.• Developing "everyday eroticism" by making conscious choices to embody sensuality in daily activities• Distinguishing between "nice" communication that suppresses authenticity and "kind" communication that honors both partners• Understanding how "uncompromising intimacy" creates more passion than traditional compromises• Identifying different types of conversations and framing them clearly for better understanding• Using the question "How old do I feel right now?" to recognize when younger parts of ourselves are driving reactions• Maintaining genuine curiosity about your partner through intentional questions• Focusing on quality rather than quantity for both physical intimacy and date nights• Recognizing that having a fantastic relationship is a learnable skill that anyone can developVisit alexandrastockwell.com to learn about Dr. Stockwell's coaching programs, book "Uncompromising Intimacy," and podcast "The Intimate Marriage Podcast."Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Jun 2, 2025 • 45min
Keeping Marriage Strong When Life Gets Tough | Dave and Julie Bulitt | #135
Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

May 26, 2025 • 43min
Your Baby Deserves Parents Who Love Each Other | Julie Blackburn | #134
Julie Blackburn shares her expertise on helping couples maintain strong relationships during the challenging transition to parenthood, drawing on her experience as a registered nurse, midwife, and Bringing Baby Home educator.• 67% of couples become unhappy with each other during the first three years of their baby's life• The greatest gift you can give your baby is a happy and strong relationship between parents• Parenting differences stem from our upbringing and personal experiences• The "secret sauce" for healthy relationships includes maintaining friendship, regulating conflict, and creating shared meaning• Criticism can cause partners (especially dads) to withdraw from parenting involvement• When dad is unhappy in his relationship with mom, a gulf often grows between him and his child• Father involvement is crucial for child development, affecting temperament, self-regulation, confidence, and academic performance• Military families face unique challenges requiring extra intentionality in maintaining connection• The Gottman card deck app offers structured ways to maintain meaningful conversations and express needs without criticism• Keeping an emotional "bank account" full through expressions of fondness and admiration sustains relationships through challengesThe key to a stronger marriage connection is friendship and kindness. Remember to remain each other's best friend, hold space for each other, and keep telling your partner how much you appreciate them.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

May 19, 2025 • 46min
A Great Marriage Starts With a Great You | Greg Denning | #133
Greg Denning shares his journey from a troubled childhood to creating an extraordinary marriage and family life while traveling to over 60 countries with his wife and seven children. His positive energy and unique ability to inspire others stems from his personal transformation after leaving home at 16 and experiencing homelessness before discovering the secrets to creating a happy life.• Making marriage the true priority by saying no to anything that competes with the relationship• Using micro deposits (daily acts of connection) and macro deposits (regular getaways and annual honeymoon trips) to invest in marriage• Applying the "Silent Film Test" – asking if observers would know your spouse is your priority based only on actions• Working on yourself first – resolving personal issues that create obstacles in your marriage• Understanding that men can increase their capacity to handle pressure through mindset shifts and physical health• Learning to truly listen to your spouse without trying to fix or respond• Strategically creating systems that enable you to manage complex family life without burnout• Remembering the marriage equation: as you improve yourself, the relationship improves even if only one partner is initially working on itWe live at the level of our habits, not our hopes. Don't settle for a mediocre marriage – keep pursuing your dream of a phenomenal relationship through consistent small adjustments that create big differences over time.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

May 12, 2025 • 42min
Gottman's Science of Love: Practical Tools for Connection | Julie Sharon-Wagschal | #132
Struggling to understand what makes a relationship flourish over time? In this eye-opening episode with Dutch-American psychologist Julie Sharon, we uncover the science-backed secrets that separate thriving marriages from those that falter.When couples find themselves locked in the same frustrating conflict patterns, the answer might be surprisingly physiological. Julie reveals how a racing heart (over 100 BPM) signals we've entered "fight or flight" mode—a state where productive communication becomes nearly impossible. Learn why taking a structured 20-30 minute break can transform heated arguments into constructive conversations, and why agreeing to return to difficult topics builds crucial trust.The episode dives deep into the Gottmans' groundbreaking research on "bids for connection"—those small moments when we reach toward our partner for acknowledgment or engagement. Julie explains why couples who respond positively to these bids 86% of the time stay happily married, while those responding only 33% of the time face relationship breakdown. These seemingly minor interactions create what she calls an "emotional bank account" that buffers relationships during inevitable conflicts.Beyond the research, Julie shares practical tools you can implement today: the stress-reducing conversation (listening without solving), effective repair attempts after conflicts, and creating a culture of appreciation and kindness. She emphasizes that healthy relationships aren't conflict-free—they simply maintain a 5:1 ratio of positive to negative interactions during disagreements.Ready to transform your relationship? Start by looking inward at your own contributions rather than focusing on your partner's shortcomings. As Julie reminds us: "Slow down, take a look inside. Don't respond too quickly. Think before you act, think before you speak, feel before you speak."Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

May 5, 2025 • 49min
Navigating Relationship Conflict: Healing Through Connection | Dr. Ryan Seedall | #131
Dr. Ryan Seedall draws on his 20+ years of experience as a therapist to share insights about relationship conflict patterns and the role of attachment in marriage dynamics. He provides practical pointers to strengthen marriage connections, including how to navigate the demand-withdraw cycle and use anger productively.• Healthy marriages require not just absence of negative interactions but presence of positive ones• Couples need to recover from conflict, not just learn how to argue better• The demand-withdraw pattern creates a cycle where one person's behavior triggers the exact response they're trying to avoid• "Signal and respond" describes how partners communicate needs and respond to each other• Anger serves as a protest signal that something needs attention, not necessarily a destructive force• Technology creates new challenges for couples, with text arguments losing crucial nonverbal cues• Mixed-faith marriages require special navigation of differing beliefs and values• Early intervention is crucial - addressing small issues before they become entrenched patterns• Attunement to partner's emotional state builds trust and connection• Vulnerability, when met with responsiveness, creates deeper intimacyRemember, it's the small things that create a stronger marriage connection. Find more resources at StrongerMarriage.org, including workshops, e-courses, webinars and relationship surveys.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Apr 28, 2025 • 51min
The Imago Connection: Transforming Conflict into Growth | Mary Kay Cocharo | #130
Mary Kay Cocharo shares how Imago therapy helps transform relationship conflicts into opportunities for healing childhood wounds through a structured dialogue process that fosters safety, understanding, and deep connection. • Imago theory suggests we're unconsciously attracted to partners who possess both positive and negative traits of our childhood caretakers• Relationships typically move from a romantic stage (lasting about two years) to a power struggle phase where childhood wounds emerge• 50% of married couples divorce during the power struggle phase after about six years of conflict• The Intentional Dialogue process involves mirroring (reflecting what was said), validating (acknowledging the other's perspective makes sense), and empathizing• Surface conflicts often mask deeper childhood wounds, as illustrated by a couple fighting about a dog that actually connected to grief over a mother's death• Sitting 18 inches apart with eye contact calms the limbic brain and activates the cortex, creating a neurobiological state conducive to problem-solving• People typically respond to conflict by either "hyper-arousing" (getting louder/more expressive) or "hypo-arousing" (withdrawing/shutting down)• Three key elements for a stronger marriage connection: touch/physical affection, safe/respectful communication, and shared activities• Focus on the dynamic in the space between you rather than blaming your partner• Simple eye gazing for a few minutes can rebuild connection when words have become triggeringMary Kay's Resourceshttps://www.mkcocharo.com/ Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Apr 21, 2025 • 38min
Technology Meets Therapy: How Digital Tools Are Transforming Modern Relationships | Brian Doss | #129
Dr. Brian Doss shares a science-backed digital resource called Our Relationship that helps couples identify relationship challenges and implement effective solutions through a structured framework.• Our Relationship program has been continuously funded by the NIH for 15 years and helped tens of thousands of couples• The DEEP framework helps couples understand Differences, Emotions, External stress, and Patterns of communication• Surface emotions like anger often mask hidden emotions like hurt, loneliness, or feeling disconnected• "Invisible support" like doing household tasks before your partner notices can significantly reduce relationship stress• Expressing gratitude for small actions helps maintain positive connections with your partner• The program takes approximately 8-10 hours and offers optional coaching support• Free versions are available for military families and qualifying households based on income• Research shows the program improves not just relationships but also mental health, physical health, and family functioningVisit OurRelationship.com to learn more about the program, which is available both online and through app stores.Brian's Resourceshttps://www.ourrelationship.com/Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Apr 14, 2025 • 32min
Relationship Churning: The On-Again, Off-Again Cycle | Sarah Halpern-Meekin | #128
Relationship churning—the pattern of breaking up and getting back together with the same partner—affects nearly half of young adults and creates emotional whiplash for couples, children, and their support networks. Dr. Sarah Halpern-Meekin shares her groundbreaking research on this common relationship phenomenon, explaining why couples fall into these patterns and what it means for their wellbeing.• Relationship churning comes in two main forms: breaking up and getting back together, and having sex with an ex• Nearly half of young adults report churning in their current or most recent relationship• Churning relationships show higher psychological distress, lower satisfaction, and worse communication, but surprisingly higher intimate self-disclosure• Fathers in churning relationships stay more involved with their children than those who permanently break up• Economic distress, incarceration history, and one-sided breakups increase likelihood of churning• The key to healthy relationships includes investing time in connection, developing conflict management skills, and setting clear expectations• Before reconciling after a breakup, ask if what caused the original breakup has actually changedSarah's Resourceshttps://www.irp.wisc.edu/staff/halpern-meekin-sarah/ Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com