

Stronger Marriage Connection
Utah Marriage Comission
It's often said that marriage takes work. The Stronger Marriage Connection podcast wants to help because a happy marriage is worth the effort. USU Family Life Professor Dr. Dave Schramm and Clinical Psychologist Dr. Liz Hale talk with experts about the principles and practices that will enhance your commitment, compassion, and emotional connection. More than ever before, marriages face obstacles, from the busyness of work and daily hassles to disagreements and digital distractions. It's no wonder couples sometimes drift apart, growing resentful, lonely, and isolated.The Utah Marriage Commission invites you to listen and discover new ways to strengthen and protect your marriage connection today!
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Sep 29, 2025 • 39min
Marriage Ready: Why Premarital Education Makes All the Difference | Jeremy Boden | #148
Dr. Jeremy Bowden returns to discuss free marriage preparation resources available through the Utah Marriage Commission and Utah State University, including his newly created "Marriage Ready" and "Remarriage Ready" online courses.• Premarital education helps couples understand relationship science, navigate potential challenges, and discuss expectations• Free six-hour online courses fulfill Utah's requirement for a $20 marriage license discount• Courses cover commitment, communication, conflict resolution, healthy sexuality, money management, and abuse prevention• StrongerMarriage.org offers additional free resources including the Relate assessment, Ready assessment, and over 100 free e-courses• Remarriage Ready addresses unique challenges like healing from emotional wounds and navigating step-parenting• Happy marriages aren't void of conflict but feature consistent repair and abundant positive connections• Dr. Bowden offers personalized premarital counseling through his "Before We Say I Do" programVisit StrongerMarriage.org, HealthyRelationshipsUtah.org, or CenterForMarriagePrep.com to access these resources and strengthen your relationship.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 22, 2025 • 47min
Marriage With MS: A Wife's Journey | Lindsay Kelly | #147
Lindsay Kelly shares her powerful journey of resilience as she navigates being a caregiver for her husband with MS, raising six children, and becoming the family's sole provider. Through finding support and learning to embrace hard emotions, she transformed her struggle into strength and now helps thousands of people facing similar challenges.• Discovering her husband's progressive MS diagnosis that caused memory loss and mood swings similar to dementia• Transitioning from stay-at-home mom to caregiver and sole provider for a family of eight• Experiencing caregiver burnout while working two jobs and coordinating her husband's care• Finding relief and stability when her husband moved to assisted living• Starting to share her story on social media and growing from 1,900 to 420,000 followers• Creating a caregiver support group that grew to thousands of members• Becoming a certified life coach to help others find their smile again• Learning to embrace negative emotions without feeling guilty about them• Setting necessary boundaries, even with family members• Finding gratitude in small daily wins during overwhelming times• Discovering who she is as an individual apart from her roles as caregiver and motherLindsay offers a free masterclass for people who feel lonely within their marriage, teaching them how to reconnect with themselves and find happiness again.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 15, 2025 • 45min
From Conflict to Connection: Mindfulness in Relationships | Annmarie Chereso | #146
Conscious Relationship Coach Annmarie Chereso shares powerful insights on transforming conflict into deeper connection through mindfulness, vulnerability, and heart-centered awareness. She reveals how asking yourself "Where am I?" can identify whether fear or trust is driving your relationship patterns.• Conflict isn't a problem but a portal to deeper awareness and connection• Our relationship to conflict is conditioned by childhood experiences• The question "Where am I?" helps identify if we're operating from fear or trust• When contracted (even 1%), we're in protection mode and unavailable for authentic connection• Accepting our humanity means acknowledging we get scared, especially in relationships• The check-in process integrates mind, body, and heart intelligence• Breaking generational patterns requires awareness and acceptance without judgment• Connection with others begins with connecting to yourself first• Being willing to "go first" with vulnerability transforms relationship dynamics• Accepting your own humanity and your partner's humanity is key to stronger connectionFor free resources including the check-in process Annmarie mentioned, visit annmariechereso.comVisit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 8, 2025 • 36min
A Candid Look at Emotional Reactivity | Jason Whiting | #145
Dr. Jason Whiting explores honesty, emotions, and relationship repair as foundational elements for building trust and connection in committed partnerships.• Honesty is universally valued but challenging to maintain consistently in relationships• Research shows people tell an average of three lies in ten minutes when first meeting someone new• Emotions strongly influence how we perceive our partners and can turn them into "enemies" rather than allies• Editing words to find truth rather than hiding it distinguishes authentic honesty from reactive "brutal honesty"• Basic self-care practices like sleep, exercise, and nutrition significantly impact relationship quality• Negotiated timeouts provide space to calm down before addressing relationship challenges• Authenticity develops through consistent choices to be reflective rather than defensive• Trust requires consistent effort to build and significant time to repair after betrayal• Small, consistent acts of commitment build trust more effectively than grand gesturesRemember that trust is something that can be grown with consistent effort, and relationships thrive when we prioritize giving them quality time and attention.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 1, 2025 • 34min
Unpacking Bad Marriage Advice | Monica Tanner | #144
Relationship coach Monica Tanner returns to discuss her new book "Bad Marriage Advice: 15 Myths That Are Keeping You Miserable" and challenges conventional wisdom that may be damaging marriages. She explores how common advice like "happy wife, happy life" and "don't sweat the small stuff" creates imbalanced relationships, poor communication patterns, and prevents couples from addressing issues before they become serious problems.• "Happy wife, happy life" places too much responsibility on women for the emotional atmosphere while encouraging men to silence their own needs• "Divorce is not an option" can prevent couples from growing and making necessary changes when they believe they're stuck regardless of effort• Instead of compromise where nobody gets what they want, try collaboration through curiosity about each other's underlying needs• Newlyweds should establish a relationship with a coach/counselor early as prevention rather than waiting for crisis• "Don't sweat the small stuff" ignores how minor irritations become major resentments—address issues while they're still small• Most relationship patterns stem from childhood programming and past experiences that shape automatic reactions• The key to stronger marriages is consciousness (understanding yourself and your partner) and effective communication• Happily ever after is possible when couples view marriage as a "people-growing machine" that helps them become their best selvesFind Monica Tanner's book at badmarriageadvice.com or learn more about her work at monicatanner.com.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Aug 25, 2025 • 44min
Dating with Purpose: From Single to Successful Couple | Stacy Hubbard | #143
Dating requires intention and skill, whether you're looking for fun or seeking a lifelong partnership. Marriage and family therapist Stacey Hubbard joins us to share her Gottman-based approach for singles navigating the relationship landscape.• Building friendship first is crucial when dating - take things slowly and watch for signs of trustworthiness• The honeymoon phase typically lasts 6-18 months with feel-good chemicals making us more trusting• Understanding the three phases of relationships: limerence (honeymoon), trust-building, and commitment• Many couples skip from honeymoon phase to commitment without properly building trust• Trust indicators include honesty, transparency, proof of alliance, ethical actions, and accountability• Develop a "positive habit of mind" by scanning for what's good rather than focusing on flaws• Successful couples dedicate at least six hours a week to their relationship• Focus on "unique value" (personality, values, interests) rather than just "mate value" (physical attraction)Check out the Lessons in Love for Singles workshop at gottman.com under the singles dropdown, or visit staceyhubbard.com for more resources.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Aug 18, 2025 • 43min
Betrayal, Infidelity, and Affair Recovery | Dr. Talal Alsaleem | #142
Dr. Talal Al-Saleem breaks down the complexities of infidelity from definition to recovery, offering hope through his specialized Systematic Affair Recovery Therapy approach. He challenges common misconceptions about infidelity causes and provides practical guidance for both healing after betrayal and safeguarding relationships against it.• Understanding infidelity as a breach of the unique exclusivity contract between partners• Recognizing that infidelity stems from three categories: relationship factors, individual factors, and socio-environmental factors• Acknowledging that good people can make awful mistakes like infidelity• Setting the stage for healing by staying together (if safe), avoiding contact with affair partners, and protecting children from details• Safeguarding relationships through introspection, clear partner "job descriptions," and weekly relationship check-ins• Seeing infidelity recovery as an opportunity to make informed decisions about the future, whether together or apart• Understanding that vulnerability to infidelity exists in all relationships, requiring ongoing vigilanceCheck out Dr. Talal Al-Saleem's resources at systematicaffairrecoverytherapy.com for clinicians and Infidelity Counseling Center for clients. His books and YouTube channel "The Infidelity Doctor" offer valuable insights for both professionals and individuals dealing with infidelity.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Aug 11, 2025 • 35min
Four Keys to a Happier Marriage | Dr. Jeffery Dew | #141
Dr. Jeffrey Du shares groundbreaking research identifying four key factors for a stronger marriage: commitment, protectiveness, shared religious attendance, and regular date nights. These factors emerged from data collected from over 2,000 individuals across the United States, focusing specifically on elements within couples' control.• Commitment means intentionally prioritizing your spouse and marriage amid busy lives• Protectiveness involves emotional safeguarding, loyalty, and consistently having your spouse's back• Shared religious attendance creates deeper connection through joint spiritual experiences• Regular date nights (at least twice monthly) significantly boost marital happiness• Shared financial decision-making and joint bank accounts correlate with higher marital satisfaction• Small, daily actions matter more for relationship health than occasional grand gestures• Marriage requires intentionality – like a plant needing daily sunshine and regular water• Premarital education provides couples with important foundations for successFor more information, visit the Institute for Family Studies website or contact Dr. Jeffrey Du directly at jeff_du@byu.edu.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Aug 4, 2025 • 1h 6min
Finding Love Through ALS | Lisa Valentine Clark | #140
Lisa Valentine Clark shares her extraordinary journey of love and resilience through her husband Christopher's battle with ALS, offering profound insights on how their marriage was strengthened through humor, sacrifice, and intentionally seeking joy amid terminal illness.• Starting as friends performing in a comedy play at BYU—Lisa as a chicken, Christopher as Satan—created a foundation of laughter and friendship for their 25-year marriage• Humor played a crucial role in their relationship, making each other laugh even through the darkest moments• When Christopher was diagnosed with ALS in 2020, Lisa describes entering "go time" mode, committing fully to caregiving while he continued creating art until his final days• During COVID lockdown, Christopher invited friends to entertain him through their living room window, creating unexpected moments of connection and joy• The diagnosis shifted their marriage from equitable to sacrificial, with Lisa caring for Christopher and him focusing on leaving meaningful legacies for her and their five children • Christopher orchestrated a surprise 25th wedding anniversary celebration two days before his death, demonstrating his outward focus even when dying• Lisa emphasizes loyalty to friendship as the key to a stronger marriage—seeing your spouse as your best friend and being their biggest cheerleader• Being fully present in the moment allowed them to find unexpected joy even during the most difficult circumstances• Lisa's advice for couples facing health challenges: "Go all in" on caregiving without worrying about consequences• For those who have lost someone: "You don't honor love by ceasing to exist—you honor it by loving, creating and living"Listen to Lisa's podcasts, The Lisa Show and Council of Moms, wherever you get your podcasts.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Jun 30, 2025 • 45min
Discernment Counseling: For Couples on the Brink of Divorce | Steve Harris | #139
Dr. Steve Harris joins us to explain discernment counseling, a specialized approach helping couples gain clarity about whether to work on their marriage or move toward divorce.• Developed at the University of Minnesota after research showed 30% of divorcing couples had at least one person who didn't want the divorce• Differs from traditional couples therapy by focusing on decision-making clarity rather than relationship improvement• Designed specifically for "mixed-agenda couples" where one partner wants to work on the marriage while the other is considering divorce• Creates a structured space where ambivalence about the relationship is welcomed and explored• Presents three paths: continuing the status quo, moving toward divorce, or committing to six months of intensive work on the relationship• Typically runs 1-5 sessions with both joint and individual components• Helps both partners recognize their own contributions to marital problems, not just their partner's failings• Results show approximately 51% choose to work on their marriage, with 70-75% of those successfully repairing their relationship• Even couples who ultimately divorce benefit from better understanding and communicationVisit MinnesotaCouplesOnTheBrink.org or discernmentcounseling.com to learn more and find trained counselors in your area.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/