
Stronger Marriage Connection
It's often said that marriage takes work. The Stronger Marriage Connection podcast wants to help because a happy marriage is worth the effort. USU Family Life Professor Dr. Dave Schramm and Clinical Psychologist Dr. Liz Hale talk with experts about the principles and practices that will enhance your commitment, compassion, and emotional connection. More than ever before, marriages face obstacles, from the busyness of work and daily hassles to disagreements and digital distractions. It's no wonder couples sometimes drift apart, growing resentful, lonely, and isolated.The Utah Marriage Commission invites you to listen and discover new ways to strengthen and protect your marriage connection today!
Latest episodes

Apr 21, 2025 • 38min
Technology Meets Therapy: How Digital Tools Are Transforming Modern Relationships | Brian Doss | #129
Dr. Brian Doss shares a science-backed digital resource called Our Relationship that helps couples identify relationship challenges and implement effective solutions through a structured framework.• Our Relationship program has been continuously funded by the NIH for 15 years and helped tens of thousands of couples• The DEEP framework helps couples understand Differences, Emotions, External stress, and Patterns of communication• Surface emotions like anger often mask hidden emotions like hurt, loneliness, or feeling disconnected• "Invisible support" like doing household tasks before your partner notices can significantly reduce relationship stress• Expressing gratitude for small actions helps maintain positive connections with your partner• The program takes approximately 8-10 hours and offers optional coaching support• Free versions are available for military families and qualifying households based on income• Research shows the program improves not just relationships but also mental health, physical health, and family functioningVisit OurRelationship.com to learn more about the program, which is available both online and through app stores.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Apr 14, 2025 • 32min
Relationship Churning: The On-Again, Off-Again Cycle | Sarah Halpern-Meekin | #128
Relationship churning—the pattern of breaking up and getting back together with the same partner—affects nearly half of young adults and creates emotional whiplash for couples, children, and their support networks. Dr. Sarah Halpern-Meekin shares her groundbreaking research on this common relationship phenomenon, explaining why couples fall into these patterns and what it means for their wellbeing.• Relationship churning comes in two main forms: breaking up and getting back together, and having sex with an ex• Nearly half of young adults report churning in their current or most recent relationship• Churning relationships show higher psychological distress, lower satisfaction, and worse communication, but surprisingly higher intimate self-disclosure• Fathers in churning relationships stay more involved with their children than those who permanently break up• Economic distress, incarceration history, and one-sided breakups increase likelihood of churning• The key to healthy relationships includes investing time in connection, developing conflict management skills, and setting clear expectations• Before reconciling after a breakup, ask if what caused the original breakup has actually changedVisit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Apr 7, 2025 • 53min
Connection: The Core of Human Experience | Adam Dorsay | #127
Connection forms the foundation of mental health and happiness, with disconnection from ourselves, others, the world, and something greater underlying virtually every psychological struggle we face.• Four types of connection: with self (authenticity), others (relationships), the world (nature/art), and something greater (awe/spirituality)• Modern distractions like social media, FOMO, and constant digital interruptions actively prevent meaningful connection• Self-connection provides the foundation for all other connections - if disconnected from ourselves, we can't truly connect elsewhere• Personal "connection formulas" vary widely - activities that energize one person may drain another• Novel shared experiences allow families and couples to see each other through fresh eyes and strengthen bonds• Friendships serve vital roles that romantic relationships cannot replace - no single relationship can meet all our connection needs• Workplace connection can be found by developing valued skills and experiencing flow states even in less-than-ideal jobs• Loneliness impacts physical health more than smoking, highlighting connection as a fundamental human needThe book "Super Psyched: Unleash the Power of the Four Types of Connection and Live the Life You Love" is available now on Amazon and Barnes & Noble, and you can learn more at DrAdamDorsay.com.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Mar 31, 2025 • 37min
Betrayal Trauma: Finding Hope After Infidelity | Dave Jones | #126
Betrayal trauma occurs when trust is violated within a relationship, creating a profound alteration of reality for the betrayed partner and causing symptoms similar to PTSD. David Jones, a licensed marriage and family therapist, shares insights on the unique challenges of betrayal trauma and offers a three-part framework for healing.• Betrayal trauma is defined as an "alteration of reality" - discovering that what you thought was true about your relationship wasn't• What makes betrayal trauma unique is that the betrayed often must interact with the source of their trauma• The "three legs of the stool" framework for healing: boundaries, individual coping skills/self-care, and connections• Recovery takes significant time - often years - but healing is possible whether the relationship continues or ends• Forgiveness does not equal trust - forgiveness is releasing bitterness while trust must be earned through consistent behavior• Emotional safety forms the foundation for rebuilding connection after betrayal• Support people should be "marriage friendly" if the couple is working toward reconciliationIf you'd like to learn more about the resources discussed in this episode, visit Secure Connection Counseling at secureconnectioncounseling.com or explore the resources available at StrongerMarriage.org.David's Links:https://secureconnectioncounseling.com/About David Jones:David Jones is dedicated to strengthening marriages and families. Growing up with divorced parents and a father in recovery from alcoholism shaped his passion for helping couples navigate challenges. His own blended family of eight children further fuels his commitment to marriage therapy.A Certified Emotionally Focused Therapist, Certified Family Life Educator, and EFT Supervisor Candidate, David specializes in helping couples facing betrayal trauma, infidelity, sexual addiction, and ADHD-related relationship struggles. He also teaches university courses on family relationships and serves as an Army Reserve Chaplain, expanding his real-world perspective.As an AAMFT-Approved Supervisor and EFT Supervisor in Training, David is a leader in his field. He applies attachment theory to therapy, believing that secure relationships not only heal but create lasting transformation. Clients often credit his work with saving their marriages. With a deep well of experience, empathy, and expertise, David is a trusted guide for couples seeking healing and growth.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Mar 24, 2025 • 55min
When Marriage Meets Faith | Dr. Loren Marks | #125
Faith and religion shape marriages by influencing beliefs, practices, and community connections that help couples build "championship marriages" through shared sacred purpose. Dr. Loren Marks shares insights from the American Families of Faith Project, featuring interviews with 300 exemplary couples from 20+ faith traditions.• Shared beliefs create a "family vision" that transcends daily conflicts and provides meaning• Religious practices like family prayer, Shabbat dinners, and observing Ramadan strengthen marital bonds• Faith communities offer support, mentorship, and "friends of the marriage" who invest in couples' success• Even spouses from identical religious backgrounds have different spiritual experiences—every marriage is an "interfaith marriage"• The "divine triangle" concept shows how spouses on individual spiritual journeys converge as they move toward God• Big C Commitment (commitment "no matter what") versus little c commitment (conditional commitment) makes the difference in lasting marriages• Great marriages weren't always great—many couples shared they would have "jumped ship" without faith helping them through early struggles• Religion can harm marriages when it becomes a "time affair" or when applied too rigidly without relational flexibilityMarriage is an invitation to increased holiness, where "you lift me and I'll lift thee, and together we will ascend."Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Mar 17, 2025 • 45min
Hidden Toll: How Conflict & Divorce Impact Children | Jenet Erickson | #124
Dr. Liz and Dr. Dave welcome Dr. Janet Erickson to discuss the profound impact of marriage on children and families, exploring how parental relationships shape child development and identity formation.• Strong marriages create a sense of wholeness, identity, and belonging for children• Research consistently shows divorce has significant impacts on children of all ages• Children of divorce often face existential questions about their identity and place• Adult children of divorce can overcome challenges by witnessing healthy marriage models• A "good enough" marriage is worth fighting for, though abusive relationships warrant separation• Marriage involves a journey from "loving without knowing" to "being seen, known, and loved"• Maintaining family rituals provides stability during transitions• Personal growth and self-awareness are crucial for healthy relationships• Happiness ultimately comes from deep connection with others"We are relational beings and relationships are worth it, and this is the essence of life. Happiness is love full stop, and our ability to love and to be in loving relationships is worth the growth. It will take growth. It's going to take change in all of us, but that's what we're born for. It's what we desire more than anything."Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Mar 10, 2025 • 43min
The Art of New Parenthood: Protecting Your Relationship While Welcoming Baby | Joni Parthemer | #123
Dr. Liz and Dr. Dave welcome Joni Parthimer, education director for the Gottman Institute's Bringing Baby Home program, to discuss how couples can maintain a strong relationship while navigating the challenges of new parenthood.About Joni:Joni Parthemer, M.Ed., is a Master Trainer and Education Director for the Bringing Baby Home Program. She is a certified Childbirth Educator and faculty member at Bastyr University’s Simkin Center, specializing in birth and family education at Swedish Medical Center in Seattle.An award-winning speaker and consultant, Joni brings decades of experience, authenticity, and wit to her work with families and educators. She has developed and published training materials to support family and community growth. Married with two children, she is passionate about helping families thrive.Key Points:• Research shows 67% of couples experience a significant drop in relationship satisfaction after becoming parents• Three key ingredients for relationship success: maintaining friendship, respectful conflict regulation, and creating shared family meaning• The NURSE framework helps new parents prioritize self-care: Nutrition, Understanding support needs, Rest/Resources, Soul-feeding activities, and Exercise• CPR parenting (Consistent, Predictable, Responsive) builds emotional security for infants• Babies communicate through non-verbal cues and states of consciousness from birth• Understanding infant development helps parents respond appropriately to their needs• Grandparents play an evolving role and should ask what support looks like for each family• Creating a postpartum plan before baby arrives helps the transition for everyone involved• The greatest gift parents can give children is a healthy relationship between themselves• The "family fish tank" metaphor reminds us children are only as healthy as their family ecosystemInsights:Joni: “A child's well-being is deeply influenced by the health of their family environment. The best gift parents can give their children is a strong, healthy relationship—whether married, divorced, or co-parenting. Parents serve as role models for future relationships, shaping how their children connect with others. By maintaining friendship, managing conflict with respect, and creating shared meaning through family rituals, couples can build a supportive and nurturing "family fish tank" that fosters lasting emotional security.” Liz: “The CPR approach—Consistency, Predictability, and Responsiveness—is not just valuable for parenting but also strengthens all relationships, including marriage and friendship. By being reliable, steady, and attentive, we create trust and connection in our most important relationships.”Dave: “Education is key to growth. With so many resources available today, we have endless opportunities to learn and improve as partners, parents, and individuals.”Links:jptrainsandspeaks.com Email: joni.parthemer@gmail.comVisit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Mar 3, 2025 • 50min
Why Marriage is So Important | Dr. Brad Wilcox | #122
Dr. Brad Wilcox, a sociology professor and Director of the National Marriage Project, shares valuable insights on the crucial role of marriage in today's society. He highlights key benefits like emotional support, financial stability, and child well-being, while addressing modern challenges such as communication struggles and shifting cultural attitudes. Wilcox emphasizes the importance of commitment and the unique strengths each partner brings to a marriage, offering practical advice for navigating contemporary relationships and promoting lasting connections.

Feb 24, 2025 • 47min
Why Do We Argue So Much? | Laura Heck & Zach Brittle | #121
Be sure to watch this episode on YouTube:https://youtu.be/tEm34gytP4AToday Laura Heck and Zach Brittle, co-hosts of Marriage Therapy Radio, break down why couples argue and how to navigate disagreements in a healthy way. Drawing from Dr. John Gottman’s research, they explore practical strategies to express needs, take responsibility, regulate emotions, and increase appreciation. About:Laura Heck is a licensed marriage and family therapist and Certified Gottman Therapist, specializing solely in helping couples navigate conflict and intimacy. She co-hosts Marriage Therapy Radio, leads The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work workshop, coaches women in the Epic Wives Experiment, and speaks for The Gottman Institute.When she’s not working with couples, Laura enjoys trail running with her dog, experimenting in the kitchen, and playing (admittedly bad) golf. She’s been married for 16 years and has a seven-year-old son.Zach Brittle is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) and Certified Gottman Therapist (CGT) with nearly 20 years of experience in evidence-based couples therapy. He co-hosts Marriage Therapy Radio, created Your Marriage Masterclass, and authored The Relationship Alphabet and The Marriage Therapy Journal. His insights have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vanity Fair, and more.Married to Rebecca for 21 of 23 years, Zach lives in Seattle with their two daughters. They own a minivan and still use most of their wedding silverware.Insights:Laura: "Gratitude is a practice that requires reminders. Set an alarm to text your partner appreciation or reflect on what you're grateful for—it’s a simple habit that strengthens relationships."Zach: "Laura and I are transitioning Marriage Therapy Radio, and I’m feeling sad about it. I’ve loved these meaningful conversations, and it’s bittersweet to see this chapter close."Liz: "Timing matters in conversations. If my husband isn’t ready to discuss something, I check in later. It helps ensure we both have the bandwidth for important talks."Dave: "Take responsibility for your emotions. Before reacting, look inward—cultivate patience, compassion, and understanding. It’s about getting your own heart right first."Links:Laura's Links:Marriage Therapy Radio PodcastWorkshop For CouplesEpic Wives ExperimentLaura's Gottman ProfileZach's Links:The Relationship AlphabetMarriage Therapy Journal Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com

Feb 17, 2025 • 54min
Relationship Evaluation | Don & Carrie Cole | #120
Don and Carrie Cole, experienced licensed professional counselors and experts at the Gottman Institute, delve into the intricacies of relationship evaluations and intimacy in marriage. They introduce a practical 11-point checklist to assess connection within couples. The discussion covers the importance of intentional communication, navigating family dynamics, and rekindling intimacy post-parenthood. They share techniques for managing conflict and emphasize the need for empathy to strengthen connections, ensuring partners thrive together through life's challenges.
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