

Stronger Marriage Connection
Utah Marriage Comission
It's often said that marriage takes work. The Stronger Marriage Connection podcast wants to help because a happy marriage is worth the effort. USU Family Life Professor Dr. Dave Schramm and Clinical Psychologist Dr. Liz Hale talk with experts about the principles and practices that will enhance your commitment, compassion, and emotional connection. More than ever before, marriages face obstacles, from the busyness of work and daily hassles to disagreements and digital distractions. It's no wonder couples sometimes drift apart, growing resentful, lonely, and isolated.The Utah Marriage Commission invites you to listen and discover new ways to strengthen and protect your marriage connection today!
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Oct 20, 2025 • 35min
Marriage Saving Program: Retrouvaille | Christina Morales | #151
We share Christina Morales’s story of moving from the brink of divorce to two decades of service with Retrouvaille, a couples-led program that turns communication into real change. Hope becomes concrete through a weekend intensive, post-sessions, and a community that protects confidentiality and growth.• what Retrouvaille is and who it serves• why lived experience creates safety and trust• communication tools that help partners finally hear each other• the weekend format plus post-sessions for lasting change• how faith roots coexist with open doors to all• ripple effects on children, friends and community• when one partner is hesitant and how to start• success rates, realistic outcomes and co‑parenting skills• forgiveness as a daily practice, including self‑forgiveness• practical links and the invitation to “make the call”Make the call. Do the research. Go to the websites or make the call just to gather information.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Oct 13, 2025 • 45min
Life and Dating After Divorce | Amber Anderson | #150
A tender, practical look at life after divorce: how to co‑parent without drama, date with intention as a single parent, and rebuild a calm family system where kids feel safe and seen. Amber shares the habits, boundaries, and mindset shifts that turned conflict into cooperation.• early marriage, cross‑state moves, new parent stress• choosing divorce to model a healthy life for children• co‑parenting routines that remove contention• group texting with ex and step‑parent for transparency• “kids‑only” communication and gray rocking• dating with intention and keeping a values list• pacing introductions and honoring kids’ timelines• therapy, accountability friends, and honest feedback• books that support self‑trust and discernment• hard conversations as the key to real connectionHey, do us a favor and take a second to subscribe to our podcast and the Utah Marriage Commission YouTube channel at Utah Marriage Commission, where you can watch this and every episode of the showBe sure to smash the like button, leave a comment, and share this episode with a friendYou can also follow and interact with us on Instagram at StrongerMarriageWife and Facebook at Stronger MarriageIf you want even more resources to improve your marriage or relationship connection, visit strongermarriage.org where you'll find free workshops, e-courses, in-depth webinars, relationship surveys, and moreVisit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Oct 6, 2025 • 39min
Relational Life Therapy | Kristy Gaisford | #149
We explore how Relational Life Therapy helps couples move from harshness to loving firmness, from accuracy wars to curiosity, and from quiet withdrawal to active repair. Kristy Gaisford shares personal lessons, the five dysfunctional patterns, and practical tools for daily change.• the five dysfunctional patterns: being right, controlling, unbridled self-expression, retaliation, withdrawal• start with self: sturdiness, humility, owning impact• customer-service rule: turn-taking and sequencing complaints• the feedback wheel: story, feeling, request, future• loving firmness over harshness in tough talks• the adaptive child versus wise adult self• relationship reckoning: grieving the ideal and choosing the real• harmony, disharmony, repair as the normal cycle• questions that open repair and end defensivenessHey, do us a favor and take a second to subscribe to our podcast and the Utah Marriage Commission YouTube channel at Utah Marriage Commission, where you can watch this and every episode of the show. Be sure to smash the like button, leave a comment, and share this episode with a friend. You can also follow and interact with us on Instagram at StrongerMarriageLive and Facebook at Stronger Marriage. If you want even more resources to improve your marriage or relationship connection, visit strongermarriage.org where you'll find free workshops, e-courses, in-depth webinars, relationship surveys, and more.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 29, 2025 • 39min
Marriage Ready: Why Premarital Education Makes All the Difference | Jeremy Boden | #148
Dr. Jeremy Bowden returns to discuss free marriage preparation resources available through the Utah Marriage Commission and Utah State University, including his newly created "Marriage Ready" and "Remarriage Ready" online courses.• Premarital education helps couples understand relationship science, navigate potential challenges, and discuss expectations• Free six-hour online courses fulfill Utah's requirement for a $20 marriage license discount• Courses cover commitment, communication, conflict resolution, healthy sexuality, money management, and abuse prevention• StrongerMarriage.org offers additional free resources including the Relate assessment, Ready assessment, and over 100 free e-courses• Remarriage Ready addresses unique challenges like healing from emotional wounds and navigating step-parenting• Happy marriages aren't void of conflict but feature consistent repair and abundant positive connections• Dr. Bowden offers personalized premarital counseling through his "Before We Say I Do" programVisit StrongerMarriage.org, HealthyRelationshipsUtah.org, or CenterForMarriagePrep.com to access these resources and strengthen your relationship.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 22, 2025 • 47min
Marriage With MS: A Wife's Journey | Lindsay Kelly | #147
Lindsay Kelly shares her powerful journey of resilience as she navigates being a caregiver for her husband with MS, raising six children, and becoming the family's sole provider. Through finding support and learning to embrace hard emotions, she transformed her struggle into strength and now helps thousands of people facing similar challenges.• Discovering her husband's progressive MS diagnosis that caused memory loss and mood swings similar to dementia• Transitioning from stay-at-home mom to caregiver and sole provider for a family of eight• Experiencing caregiver burnout while working two jobs and coordinating her husband's care• Finding relief and stability when her husband moved to assisted living• Starting to share her story on social media and growing from 1,900 to 420,000 followers• Creating a caregiver support group that grew to thousands of members• Becoming a certified life coach to help others find their smile again• Learning to embrace negative emotions without feeling guilty about them• Setting necessary boundaries, even with family members• Finding gratitude in small daily wins during overwhelming times• Discovering who she is as an individual apart from her roles as caregiver and motherLindsay offers a free masterclass for people who feel lonely within their marriage, teaching them how to reconnect with themselves and find happiness again.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 15, 2025 • 45min
From Conflict to Connection: Mindfulness in Relationships | Annmarie Chereso | #146
Conscious Relationship Coach Annmarie Chereso shares powerful insights on transforming conflict into deeper connection through mindfulness, vulnerability, and heart-centered awareness. She reveals how asking yourself "Where am I?" can identify whether fear or trust is driving your relationship patterns.• Conflict isn't a problem but a portal to deeper awareness and connection• Our relationship to conflict is conditioned by childhood experiences• The question "Where am I?" helps identify if we're operating from fear or trust• When contracted (even 1%), we're in protection mode and unavailable for authentic connection• Accepting our humanity means acknowledging we get scared, especially in relationships• The check-in process integrates mind, body, and heart intelligence• Breaking generational patterns requires awareness and acceptance without judgment• Connection with others begins with connecting to yourself first• Being willing to "go first" with vulnerability transforms relationship dynamics• Accepting your own humanity and your partner's humanity is key to stronger connectionFor free resources including the check-in process Annmarie mentioned, visit annmariechereso.comVisit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 8, 2025 • 36min
A Candid Look at Emotional Reactivity | Jason Whiting | #145
Dr. Jason Whiting explores honesty, emotions, and relationship repair as foundational elements for building trust and connection in committed partnerships.• Honesty is universally valued but challenging to maintain consistently in relationships• Research shows people tell an average of three lies in ten minutes when first meeting someone new• Emotions strongly influence how we perceive our partners and can turn them into "enemies" rather than allies• Editing words to find truth rather than hiding it distinguishes authentic honesty from reactive "brutal honesty"• Basic self-care practices like sleep, exercise, and nutrition significantly impact relationship quality• Negotiated timeouts provide space to calm down before addressing relationship challenges• Authenticity develops through consistent choices to be reflective rather than defensive• Trust requires consistent effort to build and significant time to repair after betrayal• Small, consistent acts of commitment build trust more effectively than grand gesturesRemember that trust is something that can be grown with consistent effort, and relationships thrive when we prioritize giving them quality time and attention.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Sep 1, 2025 • 34min
Unpacking Bad Marriage Advice | Monica Tanner | #144
Relationship coach Monica Tanner returns to discuss her new book "Bad Marriage Advice: 15 Myths That Are Keeping You Miserable" and challenges conventional wisdom that may be damaging marriages. She explores how common advice like "happy wife, happy life" and "don't sweat the small stuff" creates imbalanced relationships, poor communication patterns, and prevents couples from addressing issues before they become serious problems.• "Happy wife, happy life" places too much responsibility on women for the emotional atmosphere while encouraging men to silence their own needs• "Divorce is not an option" can prevent couples from growing and making necessary changes when they believe they're stuck regardless of effort• Instead of compromise where nobody gets what they want, try collaboration through curiosity about each other's underlying needs• Newlyweds should establish a relationship with a coach/counselor early as prevention rather than waiting for crisis• "Don't sweat the small stuff" ignores how minor irritations become major resentments—address issues while they're still small• Most relationship patterns stem from childhood programming and past experiences that shape automatic reactions• The key to stronger marriages is consciousness (understanding yourself and your partner) and effective communication• Happily ever after is possible when couples view marriage as a "people-growing machine" that helps them become their best selvesFind Monica Tanner's book at badmarriageadvice.com or learn more about her work at monicatanner.com.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Aug 25, 2025 • 44min
Dating with Purpose: From Single to Successful Couple | Stacy Hubbard | #143
Dating requires intention and skill, whether you're looking for fun or seeking a lifelong partnership. Marriage and family therapist Stacey Hubbard joins us to share her Gottman-based approach for singles navigating the relationship landscape.• Building friendship first is crucial when dating - take things slowly and watch for signs of trustworthiness• The honeymoon phase typically lasts 6-18 months with feel-good chemicals making us more trusting• Understanding the three phases of relationships: limerence (honeymoon), trust-building, and commitment• Many couples skip from honeymoon phase to commitment without properly building trust• Trust indicators include honesty, transparency, proof of alliance, ethical actions, and accountability• Develop a "positive habit of mind" by scanning for what's good rather than focusing on flaws• Successful couples dedicate at least six hours a week to their relationship• Focus on "unique value" (personality, values, interests) rather than just "mate value" (physical attraction)Check out the Lessons in Love for Singles workshop at gottman.com under the singles dropdown, or visit staceyhubbard.com for more resources.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/

Aug 18, 2025 • 43min
Betrayal, Infidelity, and Affair Recovery | Dr. Talal Alsaleem | #142
Dr. Talal Al-Saleem breaks down the complexities of infidelity from definition to recovery, offering hope through his specialized Systematic Affair Recovery Therapy approach. He challenges common misconceptions about infidelity causes and provides practical guidance for both healing after betrayal and safeguarding relationships against it.• Understanding infidelity as a breach of the unique exclusivity contract between partners• Recognizing that infidelity stems from three categories: relationship factors, individual factors, and socio-environmental factors• Acknowledging that good people can make awful mistakes like infidelity• Setting the stage for healing by staying together (if safe), avoiding contact with affair partners, and protecting children from details• Safeguarding relationships through introspection, clear partner "job descriptions," and weekly relationship check-ins• Seeing infidelity recovery as an opportunity to make informed decisions about the future, whether together or apart• Understanding that vulnerability to infidelity exists in all relationships, requiring ongoing vigilanceCheck out Dr. Talal Al-Saleem's resources at systematicaffairrecoverytherapy.com for clinicians and Infidelity Counseling Center for clients. His books and YouTube channel "The Infidelity Doctor" offer valuable insights for both professionals and individuals dealing with infidelity.Visit our site for FREE relationship resources and regular giveaways: Strongermarriage.org Podcast.stongermarriage.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StrongerMarriageLife TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@strongermarriagelife Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strongermarriagelife/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strongermarriage/ Facebook Marriage Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/770019130329579 Dr. Dave Schramm: http://drdaveschramm.com http://drdavespeaks.com Dr. Liz Hale: http://www.drlizhale.com/


