

Third Sector Podcast
Third Sector
A weekly podcast from Third Sector, the UK’s leading publication for everyone who needs to know what’s going on in the voluntary and not-for-profit sector.
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Jul 23, 2025 • 12min
Bonus episode: What you need to know about the Civil Society Covenant
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle dive into the newly launched Civil Society Covenant, a groundbreaking framework for collaboration between government and civil society. They discuss key insights from leaders like Prime Minister Keir Starmer, highlighting the commitment to inclusivity and equity. The conversation covers transparency and accountability in the charity sector, addressing the pressing financial challenges charities face. They also explore recent government reforms aimed at improving funding and fair compensation for services. It's a hopeful look at the future of charity-government relations.

Jul 18, 2025 • 38min
How to engage Gen Z in your charitable mission
Lucinda Rouse and Emily Harle are joined by are joined by Dan Lawes, co-chief executive of the youth democracy charity My Life My Say, to consider how charities working in all cause areas can interact effectively with younger people.Dan explains how My Life My Say engaged with brands including Tinder, Lime and Snapchat to promote its 'Give an X' campaign to encourage young people to vote in the 2024 general election as part of its wider youth outreach activities. He also provides his perspective on voluntary sector leadership as a younger-than-average chief executive.Tell us what you think of the Third Sector Podcast! Please take five minutes to let us know how we can bring you the most relevant, useful content. To fill in the survey, click here.
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Jul 11, 2025 • 29min
The path to financial security in the face of shrinking grants
Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts are joined by Nihara Krause, chief executive of the youth mental health charity Stem4, to talk about the organisation’s quest for long-term sustainability in the face of falling grant income.Nihara describes the challenges faced by Stem4 in developing partnership and merger prospects, as the charity has sought to stay afloat since the Covid-19 pandemic.She outlines the internal changes made to commercialise some of the charity’s products and foster a more entrepreneurial mindset, with a greater focus on profit.Tell us what you think of the Third Sector Podcast! Please take five minutes to let us know how we can bring you the most relevant, useful content. To fill in the survey, click here.
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Jul 4, 2025 • 32min
Demystifying apprenticeship schemes for charities
Lucinda Rouse and Dami Adewale are joined by Gary Laybourne, chief executive of the sports coaching apprenticeship charity Coach Core.Gary outlines some of the voluntary sector roles that are compatible with existing apprenticeship schemes and explains the practicalities of taking on an apprentice.He describes ways in which charities can offset the cost and commitments associated with taking on an apprentice, including through corporate partners and sharing a role with another organisation.Find the government’s guidance on employing an apprentice here and Not Going to Uni resources here. Listen to When Charity Goes Wrong.Tell us what you think of the Third Sector Podcast! Please take five minutes to let us know how we can bring you the most relevant, useful content. To fill in the survey, click here.
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Jun 20, 2025 • 11min
Third Sector: The Conference snapshot
Lucinda Rouse hears from some of the speakers at Third Sector: The Conference 2025, which was held at the Barbican Centre in London this week (18 and 19 June).They are: Sarah Hughes, chief executive of Mind; Duncan Bootland and Ian Howick, medical director and executive director of corporate services at the Air Ambulance Charity Kent Surrey Sussex; Nadia Alomar, chief executive of Clore Social Leadership; Amar Abbas, chief executive of Youth Action; Catherine Johnstone, chief executive of the Royal Voluntary Service; and James Fletcher, chair of the KFC Youth Foundation.Listen to When Charity Goes Wrong.Listen back to:Nadia Alomar on developing the right leaders for the modern charity sectorKSS on the importance of building trustSarah Hughes on Mind, mental health and the role of charitiesCatherine Johnstone in: Are we on the brink of a volunteering boom?Tell us what you think of the Third Sector Podcast! Please take five minutes to let us know how we can bring you the most relevant, useful content. To fill in the survey, click here.
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Jun 17, 2025 • 29min
When Charity Goes Wrong, Ep. 3: Mermaids
This episode contains a reference to suicide in the first two minutes.In November 2022, the transgender youth support charity Mermaids was in crisis. Caught up in a media storm over its chest binder service, compounded by internal governance and culture failings, a statutory inquiry was launched.In the third and final episode of When Charity Goes Wrong, Lucinda Rouse hears from Lauren Stoner, chief executive of Mermaids, about the impact of the 23-month inquiry into the charity.Mermaids service users Taylor and Oakley describe the realities of growing up as trans young people in a small town and the value to them of the charity’s youth advocacy network, Mango.Shivaji Shiva, a partner at the law firm VWV, considers the side-effects of being under a regulatory inquiry and the specific challenges encountered by charities working in polarising cause areas. And the Charity Commission’s chief executive, David Holdsworth, outlines the role of the regulator when two charities are pitted against each other.Written and presented by: Lucinda RouseProducer: Nav PalExecutive producer: Ollie PeartArt director: David Robinson
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Jun 13, 2025 • 24min
The London Marathon
Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts are joined by Victoria Askew, senior marketing campaign manager at Pancreatic Cancer UK, to hear about the organisation’s experience as the charity of the year at the 2025 TCS London Marathon.Vicky provides insight into PCUK’s winning bid and the 18-month preparation process that preceded the event in April. She outlines the charity’s approach to the stewardship of its runners’ fundraising efforts and the most effective forms of communication.She describes how the use of celebrity ambassadors combined with PCUK’s biggest ever PR stunt enabled the charity to maximise on the partnership opportunity.Listen to When Charity Goes Wrong.Tell us what you think of the Third Sector Podcast! Please take five minutes to let us know how we can bring you the most relevant, useful content. To fill in the survey, click here.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 33min
When Charity Goes Wrong, Ep. 2: The Captain Tom Foundation
In April 2020, 99-year-old war veteran Captain Tom Moore became an unexpected national hero after raising £38.9m in less than four weeks by walking 100 laps of his garden. But his legacy quickly turned sour, leading to a very public fall for his family and the charity created in his name.In episode two of When Charity Goes Wrong, Lucinda Rouse hears from Hannah Ingram-Moore, daughter of Captain Sir Tom Moore and former interim chief executive of the Captain Tom Foundation.Her successor at the charity, Jack Gilbert, shares his perspective on the intellectual property dispute that contributed to its downfall.Liz Brownsell, a partner at the law firm Birketts, explains conflicts of interest and personal benefit in the context of charity law.And the Charity Commission’s chief executive, David Holdsworth, outlines how other charities can avoid the same damaging mishaps.Written and presented by: Lucinda RouseProducer: Nav PalExecutive producer: Ollie Peart.
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Jun 6, 2025 • 29min
Cultivating a more flexible volunteering offer
Lucinda Rouse and Dami Adewale are joined by Janet Thorne, chief executive of Reach Volunteering, and Nathan Miller, director at the East London Waterworks Park.Janet provides context to Reach’s finding that volunteering is thriving, with notable growth among volunteer-led organisations with no paid staff. She stresses the importance of articulating a clear purpose to attract volunteers.Nathan explains how the ELWP structures its volunteer activities around thematic circles, allowing flexibility for volunteers to contribute their skills and develop their own roles while working towards a common goal.Listen to When Charity Goes Wrong.Tell us what you think of the Third Sector Podcast! Please take five minutes to let us know how we can bring you the most relevant, useful content. To fill in the survey, click here.
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Jun 3, 2025 • 29min
When Charity Goes Wrong, Ep. 1: Kids Company
In August 2015, one of the country’s most prominent children’s charities, Kids Company, was declared insolvent. Its collapse has been followed by almost a decade of legal wrangling as the charity’s trustees pushed back against regulatory findings of mismanagement.In episode one of When Charity Goes Wrong, Third Sector journalist Lucinda Rouse hears from Andy Gough, a former Kids Company centre manager, about the realities of working for the charity’s charismatic leader, the late Camila Batmanghelidjh.Philip Kirkpatrick, a partner at the law firm Bates Wells, charts Kids Company’s decline and questions how things could have turned out differently for the charity.And the Charity Commission’s chief executive, David Holdsworth, lays out the necessary ingredients for a successfully governed charity.Written and presented by: Lucinda RouseProducer: Nav PalExecutive producer: Ollie Peart
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