

The Next Level
The Bulwark
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
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Dec 6, 2023 • 55min
Mike Johnson: Obstructor of Justice
The gang discuss Speaker Mike Johnson blurring the faces of Jan. 6 insurrectionists to protect them from the DOJ, while Rep. James Comer makes the GOP impeachment inquiry about a truck President Joe Biden bought his son.
Plus, there's a GOP debate tonight! Is there a reason to watch? And young voters are still enthused about voting, but what about Muslim Americans?
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Dec 3, 2023 • 59min
A Reckoning with History (with Clint Smith)
The New York Times best selling author Clint Smith joins Tim to discuss race and its history in the United States, including the false narratives many Americans have about it. They also discuss his book, "How the Word Is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America," and what he hopes its readers take from it.

Dec 1, 2023 • 25min
The Doorstep of Crisis (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Also: DeSantis vs. Newsom.

Nov 30, 2023 • 56min
Based Liz Cheney Has Arrived
The gang reacts to the first reveals from Liz Cheney's new book, including some embarrassing Kevin McCarthy quotes. Meanwhile, New Hampshire governor and Republican moderate, Chris Sununu, says he'll vote for Donald Trump over Joe Biden if it comes down to it. But will his endorsement of Nikki Haley mean anything? And is Mark Cuban running for president?
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Nov 23, 2023 • 50min
Elect a Dictator to Save Democracy? No Thanks!
The gang discusses former Rep. Peter Meijer, who voted to impeach Donald Trump over January 6, and his insane justification as to why he will vote for Trump over Joe Biden. Plus, DeSantis' campaign is starting to play the blame game, while Nikki Haley's shows (a little) signs of life.

Nov 19, 2023 • 56min
The Most Fortunate are the Least Patriotic (with Scott Galloway)
Professor Scott Galloway, host of the "Pivot" podcast, joins Tim to discuss the future of artificial intelligence, ungrateful tech leaders like Elon Musk, education inequality, and his transition into a media personality.

Nov 15, 2023 • 52min
Mom, Kari Lake Keeps Touching Me!
Tim debriefs his interview with Kari Lake, who's running to be the Senate of Arizona while attempting to put some of her craziest positions behind her.
Plus, a new column gives Biden advice on how to turn his campaign around, so the gang give their own unsolicited opinions. And Donald Trump's plans for his second term are chilling, but they may be key to his defeat.
Sonny Bunch joins Tim and Sarah to discuss all this and more!
Politico column: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/13/biden-2024-reelection-challenges-strategy-00126776
Watch the gang record this episode here: https://youtu.be/eJ4hmFKgbbM

Nov 12, 2023 • 1h
On the Home Front (with Brianna Keilar)
For a special Veteran's Day weekend TNL Sunday, Tim interviews CNN's Brianna Keilar, whose husband is a Green Beret. They discuss what it's like to be in a military family, the current partisan political divides within the institution, and much more.
Plus, Brianna talks about what it's like to cover Donald Trump post-presidency and how she decides what stories about the aspiring authoritarian to cover.
Check out Brianna's column, Home Front, here: https://www.cnn.com/politics/homefront

Nov 10, 2023 • 38min
St. Joe's Heel Turn (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
And the Republican debate.

Nov 9, 2023 • 1h 5min
The Death of Glenn Youngkin's Career
The gang discusses Democratic wins in recent elections, the impact on Glenn Youngkin's political career, and the strategies used to attract voters. They also touch on Trump's position on abortion, curriculum controversies, and resentment towards Pete Myers.