

The Next Level
The Bulwark
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
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Dec 28, 2023 • 22min
It's Not That Hard Nikki (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
On the last Secret Podcast of 2023, Sarah and Tim talk Nikki Haley failing to mention slavery when asked about the cause of the Civil War.
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Dec 28, 2023 • 44min
Let's Brace for 2024 Together!
The gang break down their predictions for 2024, including how the GOP primary will end, who will be Trump's VP pick, and the craziest development that could happen between now and election day.

Dec 23, 2023 • 49min
Little Steven Unplugged: Music, Politics, and Sopranos (with Steven Van Zandt)
On this special Saturday edition of TNL Sunday, Steven Van Zandt of the E Street Band joins Tim and JVL to cover everything from politics and apartheid to the '80s, the politics of the 2020s, and his ever evolving career.
Get the scoop on his music journey, genre-blending tricks, and thoughts on race in the industry. Plus, he spills the beans on acting, 'The Sopranos,' and how TV shows mix with his tunes. Don't miss the stories and laughs in this killer interview!"

Dec 22, 2023 • 18min
Monsters Behind Every Door (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Least bad options are the only options we've got.
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Dec 20, 2023 • 1h 10min
Voters or the Courts? The Right to End Trump
The gang discusses Colorado's ruling on Trump's appearance on the ballot, Trump's comments on immigration, the Senate sex scandal, and a new poll favoring President Biden. Tim shares his experience at the Turning Point USA conference.

Dec 17, 2023 • 57min
Where Did the Empathy for Ukraine Go? (with Terrell Starr)
Terrell Starr joins Tim to discuss being a Black reporter in Ukraine, and how that impacts the way he views the Russian invasion of the country. He also delves into the current mentality of Ukrainian citizens towards the defense effort, as well as how they view the stalemate in the United States over additional funds its ally.
Terrell's YouTube channel, Black Diplomats official, can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/@BlackDiplomatsOfficial/videos
Subscribe to Terrell's newsletter here: https://substack.com/@terrellstarr (First article publishes next week.
If you'd like to donate to some Ukrainian organizations Terrell recommends, click on the links below:
Nareshti Help Fund: https://nareshti.com. PAYPAL info: nareshti.help@gmail.com (In the note say, "Terrell Starr sent me your way.")
Yahidne Mission, which helps to rebuild homes in formerly occupied cities: https://heylink.me/Yahidne_mission/
Tatyana Kagitina, who supports Ukrainian soldiers who need winter gear, can be reached by email at tkagitina@gmail.com. (In the note say, "Terrell Starr sent me your way.")
Follow Terrell on social media with links below.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr
IG: https://www.instagram.com/terrelljstarr?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
Threads: terrelljstarr@threads.net

Dec 15, 2023 • 19min
What If Good Things Happen? (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
An else-worlds episode.
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Dec 14, 2023 • 47min
The GOP's Disgusting Future
The future of the GOP disgustingly hurtles towards Sen. J.D. Vance's isolationist vision, abandoning allies like Ukraine in the process.
Plus, the Texas Supreme Court refuses to let a woman get an abortion, despite risks to her health. And the GOP's impeachment inquiry into President Biden can't even state the impeachable crime their investigating.
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Dec 10, 2023 • 1h 2min
The Pivotal Moment (with David Grann)
The New York Times bestselling author David Grann ("The Lost City of Z") joins Tim and JVL to discuss his time covering Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign, and how the choice of Gov. Sarah Palin paved the way for the GOP's embrace of Donald Trump.
Plus, David discusses his latest book, "The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder," as well as "Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI," adapted to film this year by director Martin Scorsese.
Buy David's books here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/David-Grann/author/B001YDEZJO?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

Dec 8, 2023 • 24min
Giving Permission (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Plus: Sarah has to save America. Again.
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