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The Bulwark
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
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Nov 5, 2023 • 37min
Live from New Orleans with Walter Isaacson
Tim interviews Walter Isaacson at The Bulwark's live event in New Orleans. Listen to the two discuss Walter's latest book, Elon Musk, and what it was like for the author to interact with the business magnate as he was writing the biography.
This event took place on October 25, 2023.

Nov 3, 2023 • 28min
Ron and Nikki (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
The no-shot and the long-shot.

Nov 1, 2023 • 47min
If You’re Not Michelle Obama
A new poll shows newly Independent Sen. Kyrsten Sinema trailing both Republican Kari Lake and Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego in Arizona's 2024 Senate race. She also thinks adults celebrating Halloween is creepy?
Plus, the Washington Examiner's cover art depicts a radical Democratic Party that couldn't be farther from the truth, Rep. Dean Phillips' campaign against Biden is run by a grifter, and Kentucky's Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear is a model for how to win over Trump voters.
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Watch the gang record this episode on The Bulwark's official YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/CYKLzwERU-4

Oct 29, 2023 • 1h 9min
Red-Pilled (with Tom Arnold)
Actor and comedian Tom Arnold joins Tim to discuss his journey from comedy into anti-Trump politics.
He also delves into his background growing up in a white working class family, as well his split from Roseanne Barr and her embrace of right-wing conspiracies. Plus some good old fashioned GOP-bashing for fun!
And at the top of the show, Tim gives his reaction to Democratic Rep. Dean Phillips launching a presidential primary campaign against President Joe Biden.
Note: This episode was taped on October 16, 2023, prior to Rep. Mike Johnson becoming Speaker of the House.
Watch Tim interview Tom on The Bulwark's official YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/POmADsZYOYY

Oct 27, 2023 • 22min
Brought to You by Johnson Phillips (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
The new speaker and the new presidential candidate.

Oct 25, 2023 • 45min
The MAGA House Takeover is Complete
The GOP’s next speaker-designate is MAGA Rep. Mike Johnson, a major player in trying to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election; and he may just land the job!
Plus, Jenna Ellis pleads guilty to felony charges, and the right tries to turn a White House faux pas on antisemitism into Biden’s “both sides” moment. A. B. Stoddard subs in for Sarah to discuss!
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Oct 22, 2023 • 44min
Democrats are Ready to Deal (with Rep. Dan Goldman)
Democratic Rep. Dan Goldman joins Tim to talk the mayhem in the House and what liberals would be willing to negotiate with Republicans to elect a Speaker. He also details his evacuation from Israel after Hamas' terrorist attacks and gives his opinion on the left-wing of his party outspoken support for Palestinians.

Oct 22, 2023 • 21min
A Tale of Two Speeches (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Jim Jordan and Joe Biden speak to America.

Oct 18, 2023 • 56min
MAGA Learns Chaos Isn't Always a Ladder
The disfunction on The Hill continues with Jim Jordan the latest GOP hopeful to get rejected for the Speakership by his own party. What will finally make them work with Democrats to re-open the government?
Plus, Nancy Mace's weirdness could stem from a desire to be Trump's VP, DeSantis and Haley spar over U.S. policy towards refugees (and the difference between citizens and terrorists), and JVL and Tim debate who is better: Taylor Swift or Beyonce.
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Watch the gang record this episode on The Bulwark's official YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/DlPRYN-EoxM

Oct 15, 2023 • 45min
Testimony from Tel Aviv (with Blake Flayton)
Columnist Blake Flayton speaks with Tim from Tel Aviv, Israel amidst the aftermath of Hamas’ terrorist attacks. Listen to his perspective on the politics both in Israel and abroad, as well as his opinion on why thing are forever changed in the region.
Watch Tim interview Blake on The Bulwark's official YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/gUsWMImJyVI