
The Next Level
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
Latest episodes

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Oct 1, 2023 • 43min
The Road to Personal Growth (with Henry Winkler)
Actor and author Henry Winkler talks about his Hollywood career, dyslexia, AI, the SAG-AFTRA strike and more. They discuss divisions within the pro-democracy coalition, challenges in the creative business, the TV show 'Barry', and recommend various TV shows and books.

Sep 29, 2023 • 19min
Vitamin Y (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Don't worry, folks, Glenn Youngkin is here to save the GOP!
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Sep 27, 2023 • 49min
Fury and Executioner
The gang dive into what the non-Trump candidates need to do in the second debate tonight ... and debate amongst themselves if it even matters.
Plus, Donald Trump says Gen. Mark Milley should be put to death and Biden strikes with UAW union members, even though the Democratic party's green energy policies complicate his relationship with them.

Sep 24, 2023 • 43min
Drop Dead Misogynists (with Gretchen Carlson)
Gretchen Carlson shares her fight against sexual harassment and age discrimination, discusses the importance of allies, the silencing effect of NDAs and forced arbitration, disappointment with former President's response to harassment allegations, strategies for young women to protect themselves, the toxic culture of free speech, and a discussion about the movie 'Drop Dead Gorgeous'.

Sep 22, 2023 • 26min
Longreads (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
On Murdoch and Milley.
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Sep 20, 2023 • 49min
The Handy Seen Round the World
Rep. Lauren Boebert fooled around and found out, while Sen. John Fetterman's opinion on the Senate dress code riles DC. It's a doozy of an episode with Sarah vs. Tim on proper etiquette in a theater and the Senate.
Plus, Speaker Kevin McCarthy is leading his majority straight for a government shutdown they could very well be blamed for, and Donald Trump casts aside the pro-life movement without consequence.

Sep 17, 2023 • 1h 6min
MAGA: Stranger Than Fiction (with Brad Thor)
Fellow never-Trump Republican Brad Thor joins Tim this Sunday to talk his new thriller novel, "Dead Fall." They also discuss the decline of the GOP away from freedom and towards populism, the horror that would be a a second Trump presidency, and President Biden's handling of the crisis in Ukraine.
Buy Brad's new book here: https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Fall-Thriller-Scot-Harvath-ebook/dp/B0BHTNRQQQ

Sep 16, 2023 • 25min
Mitt Romney and the Hollow Men (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Sarah and JVL talk about the revelations from the upcoming Romney biography. And the weirdness of Republicans being “pro-working man” and also anti-union.

Sep 13, 2023 • 45min
The Nothing Burger Impeachment
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announces the House will start an impeachment inquiry without a vote and without evidence. But his right-wing critics, such as MAGA troll Matt Gaetz, still aren't satisfied.
Plus, the Democratic governor of New Mexico's temporary ban on guns draws bipartisan backlash for being unconstitutional, while some Texas counties are creating legal challenges to people traveling out of state to get an abortion.

Sep 10, 2023 • 57min
Bizarre Politics (with Andrew Zimmern)
Andrew Zimmern, former host of Bizarre Foods, joins Tim to discuss how food relates to immigration and climate, his journey to sobriety, growing up with two gay dads, and the future of alternative meat. Not a foodie? Don't worry, we promise there's lots of political analysis to whet your appetite!
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