
The Next Level
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
Latest episodes

Jan 28, 2024 • 54min
The "Good Guy with a Gun" Myth (with Fred Guttenberg)
Tim is joined by Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter, Jaime, perished in 2018's Parkland school shooting. He's since dedicated his life to advocating for gun control measures and taking on the NRA. In a heart-wrenching episode, Fred describes the day of the shooting and how his daughter still motivates him to make change.

Jan 26, 2024 • 22min
Democrats Need to Play Hardball with Crazy House Republicans (with Rep. Jake Auchincloss)
Tim Miller speaks with Democratic Rep. Jake Auchincloss on the status of the Ukraine/border deal negotiations, as well as the prospect of Donald Trump sinking it for political purposes.

Jan 25, 2024 • 1h 3min
Get Ready for the Longest General Election Ever
New Hampshire's come and gone, and while Nikki Haley hasn't dropped out of the primary, the overwhelming consensus is that the general election between Donald Trump and President Joe Biden has begun.
The gang breaks down the implications of Tuesday's results, including Trump's angry reaction to Haley staying in the race. Plus, they react to Tim Scott's sad endorsement of Trump and the current state of Dean Phillips' primary challenge to Biden.
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Jan 21, 2024 • 54min
How Long Does the Planet Earth Have? (with David Wallace-Wells)
In a special climate episode of TNL Sunday, David Wallace-Wells, author of The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming, joins Tim to discuss the current state of climate change and efforts to reverse the damage that's been done.

Jan 18, 2024 • 37min
George Conway Explains E. Jean Carroll’s Lawsuit Against Donald Trump
In this third edition of “George Conway Explains it All,” George explains to Sarah Longwell how he gave legal advice to E. Jean Carroll and helped connect her with her lawyer, Trump’s many, many other trials, and Trump’s big mad TruthSocial bleats directed at George.

Jan 17, 2024 • 29min
The Submission to Trump is Insane (Ballot Box with Bill Kristol)
In a special recording of their YouTube show, "Ballot Box," Bill and Tim recap the Iowa Caucus, discuss strategies for New Hampshire and where Democrats could be doing better.

Jan 16, 2024 • 47min
The GOP Chose Not to Stop Trump
The gang breaks down Donald Trump’s big win in Iowa, as well as what comes next for the other candidates in the primary. One thing’s for sure, Republicans in the Senate had their chance to convict Trump and destroy his chances at a comeback, but here we are.
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Jan 14, 2024 • 46min
Jeffrey Epstein's Secrets (with Julie K. Brown) | The Next Level Sunday
Tim speaks with Polk Award winning author Julie K. Brown about the recent batch of documents released regarding the Epstein case as well as her book 'Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story’. Julie K Brown is an investigative reporter for the Miami Herald.
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Jan 12, 2024 • 22min
Pour One Out for the Good Guy: Chris Christie leaves; Nikki Haley prepares to get smoked (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
No Labels Is Big Mad, Chris Christie is good and Nikki Haley is toast. JVL and Sarah are giving you a free sneak peek at this week's Secret Podcast.
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Jan 10, 2024 • 24min
Is Trump Going to Jail? (George Conway Explains it All)
In this second edition of "George Conway Explains it All," Sarah Longwell and George discuss the possibility of Donald Trump going to jail and the likelihood of such a glorious outcome coming to fruition.