

The Next Level
The Bulwark
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
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Apr 19, 2024 • 22min
Catch Up: Sununu, Johnson, and DJT (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Sarah was out of pocket and off the grid all week. JVL was doing his best work in Overtime. So they play a rapid-fire game of catch up on everything Sarah missed.
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Apr 17, 2024 • 52min
The Trial of Donald J. Trump
Speaker Mike Johnson is battling Marjorie Taylor Greene's attempt to oust him while also crafting legislation to give foreign allies aid, a tall task given how continually chaotic his slim majority has been.
Plus, jurors are selected for Donald Trump's trial, while JVL and A.B., subbing in for Sarah, give their thoughts on Tim's interview with Ross Douthat.
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Apr 12, 2024 • 27min
What Trump Did to Pro-Life Inc. (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
And cancer finally catches up with O.J. Simpson.
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Apr 10, 2024 • 51min
The 1860s are Back!
The OG trio is back to discuss the Arizona Supreme Court's upholding of an 1864 law banning nearly all abortions in the state. What does this mean for Kari Lake and Donald Trump's campaigns in the crucial swing state?
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Apr 5, 2024 • 12min
The Economy Keeps Getting Better (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Tim subs in for Sarah to talk new economic data that hopefully starts to make Americans feel good enough to vote for President Biden!
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Apr 3, 2024 • 48min
Enemies and Traitors Working Together
Nikki Haley pulled a decent chunk of the Wisconsin primary vote, despite being out of the race for weeks, while the Governor of Nebraska is taking the lead of Charlie Kirk when it comes to changing their electoral college system. Plus, while JVL is out on Spring Break, Andrew Eggers joins Tim and Sarah to discuss their absent colleague's piece about Donald Trump running for a third term!
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Mar 29, 2024 • 24min
Cable News Is Kabuki Theater (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Ronna McDaniel wasn't hired to analyze the news. She was hired to play a part.
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Mar 27, 2024 • 52min
The Big Lie is Hiring Up!
The RNC, now under Lara Trump, is asking candidates if they believe the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump, creating a new litmus test for Republicans who want to work in politics. Plus, Republicans politicize the tragic Baltimore bridge collapse, Candace Owens is out at the Daily Wire, and Donald Trump grifts off selling bibles! Will Saletan subs in for Sarah on this week's episode!
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Mar 20, 2024 • 51min
Ohio Says Goodbye to Anything Other Than MAGA
Trump-endorsed businessman Bernie Moreno easily won the GOP senate primary in Ohio on Tuesday, and will face off against Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown in November. Dems are thrilled, because they think the MAGA candidate and his scandals give them their best shot at keeping the seat. And how many votes is Nikki Haley getting after dropping out? What does it mean for the general election?
Plus, the debate over Donald Trump's "bloodbath" comments continues to rage, and not all our hosts agree the coverage has been fair. At the same time, Trump has threatened to prosecute Cassidy Hutchinson and the Jan. 6 committee as part of his latest authoritarian promises.

Mar 13, 2024 • 53min
The Trumps Welcome the RNC into the Family
Lara Trump's takeover of the RNC has led to massive lay offs and looks to be steering the political organization towards paying off Trump's legal bills. Essentially, get ready for the RNC to be just another limb of the Trump campaign.
Plus, Robert Hur testifies before Congress, defending his controversial report where he made a low assessment of President Biden's mental faculties. And Rep. Nancy Mace is feuding with George Stephanopoulos after being questioned about supporting Trump, even though he was found liable of sexual abuse.