
The Next Level
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
Latest episodes

Jan 10, 2024 • 48min
Yes, Presidents Can Commit Crimes
The Iowa caucus, and potentially the end to the entire 2024 primary season, is almost here. What are the campaigns doing in the final days? Plus, Donald Trump says he wants the economy to crash while Joe Biden is president. He also claims a president has complete immunity from all crimes.
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Jan 8, 2024 • 31min
Special Edition: George Conway Explains It All (w/ George Conway)
George Conway joins Sarah Longwell in this special edition of The Next Level to give his legal expertise on how SCOTUS will approach states kicking Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot.

Jan 7, 2024 • 54min
What's Next for the Populists? (with Josh Green)
NYT bestselling author Josh Green joins Tim to discuss his new book, The Rebels: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and the Struggle for a New American Politics.
They go over Josh's hypothesis as to why a progressive didn't get the Democratic nomination in 2020, how the movement pushed Biden's agenda to the left, what the future holds for the party after Trump and Biden are gone, and why populism on the right has taken over the GOP in a way it hasn't for Democrats.
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Jan 5, 2024 • 31min
Rating the News (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
The media is killing it right now.
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Jan 4, 2024 • 53min
Hello Iowa, Goodbye Primary
The gang is back to kick off 2024 by delving into the Iowa primary, where GOP primary voters seem poised to give aspiring dictator Donald Trump a landslide victory. Plus, the gang has differing thoughts on the president of Harvard University stepping down, as well as whether Nikki Haley has any shot of becoming Trump's VP.
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Dec 28, 2023 • 22min
It's Not That Hard Nikki (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
On the last Secret Podcast of 2023, Sarah and Tim talk Nikki Haley failing to mention slavery when asked about the cause of the Civil War.
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Dec 28, 2023 • 44min
Let's Brace for 2024 Together!
The gang break down their predictions for 2024, including how the GOP primary will end, who will be Trump's VP pick, and the craziest development that could happen between now and election day.

Dec 23, 2023 • 49min
Little Steven Unplugged: Music, Politics, and Sopranos (with Steven Van Zandt)
On this special Saturday edition of TNL Sunday, Steven Van Zandt of the E Street Band joins Tim and JVL to cover everything from politics and apartheid to the '80s, the politics of the 2020s, and his ever evolving career.
Get the scoop on his music journey, genre-blending tricks, and thoughts on race in the industry. Plus, he spills the beans on acting, 'The Sopranos,' and how TV shows mix with his tunes. Don't miss the stories and laughs in this killer interview!"

Dec 22, 2023 • 18min
Monsters Behind Every Door (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Least bad options are the only options we've got.
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Dec 20, 2023 • 1h 10min
Voters or the Courts? The Right to End Trump
The gang discusses Colorado's ruling on Trump's appearance on the ballot, Trump's comments on immigration, the Senate sex scandal, and a new poll favoring President Biden. Tim shares his experience at the Turning Point USA conference.