Dr. Steven C Hayes discusses negative emotions, wisdom, love, and acceptance in the modern age. The conversation explores anxiety, death, and the impact of technology on our well-being. It touches on the dangers of choosing virtue for others and emphasizes the importance of cultivating wisdom in decision-making.

Steven C Hayes, a leading psychologist and co-founder of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), shares his insights on navigating emotions and taking action towards a value-driven life. He discusses the importance of psychological flexibility and how accepting our difficult emotions can lead to personal growth. The conversation highlights the distinction between pain and suffering, the downsides of comparison, and innovative strategies for managing intrusive thoughts. With a mix of personal anecdotes, Hayes inspires listeners to embrace discomfort for emotional resilience.