Paul Elie

Paul Elie, a writer for The New Yorker and author of 'The Last Supper,' dives into Pope Francis's impactful legacy and his complex relationships with traditionalists and right-wing leaders. Elie highlights the unique leadership style of Francis, emphasizing humility and vulnerability. The conversation also explores the impending papal conclave, the deepening divide between traditionalist and progressive views, and the future dynamics of the papacy shaped by diverse cardinal electorates.

Paul Elie, a New Yorker writer focused on the Catholic Church, shares his insights from the Vatican as the world buzzes over the election of Pope Leo XIV. The discussion dives into the excitement surrounding Pope Leo's election, highlighting how modern media shapes public engagement with the papacy. The hosts explore pop culture's portrayal of popes, with critiques of shows like 'The Young Pope.' They also reflect on a resurgence in spiritual interest in the wake of recent events and the hopeful message of the new pope's leadership amidst contemporary challenges.

In this discussion, Paul Elie, a writer and scholar at Georgetown University, shines a light on the vibrant cultural landscape of the 1980s. He argues for the concept of 'crypto-religious' art, where artists like Bob Dylan and U2 reinterpreted religious imagery in innovative ways. Elie posits that this period marked the rise of a 'post-secular' society, where religion remained culturally significant despite declining traditional belief. The conversation critiques the emergence of aggressive atheism and reveals how the 80s have shaped contemporary views on faith and art.