Zsuzsanna Szelenyi, a former Hungarian politician and democracy advocate, joins BBC correspondent Nick Thorpe and politics expert Ben Wellings. They delve into Viktor Orban's dramatic shift from a youthful dissident to a controversial leader known for authoritarian tactics. The discussion highlights the rise of youth activism in Hungary, Orban’s football-inspired political strategies, and his influence during the migrant crisis. They also explore the broader implications for democracy in a Europe leaning toward conservatism.

In this discussion, Nick Thorpe, a seasoned BBC Central Europe correspondent with deep insights into Hungarian politics, explores Viktor Orban's polarizing legacy over 14 years in power. He delves into Orban's embrace of nationalism, controversial media interactions, and stance on democracy amidst rising opposition. Thorpe examines Orban's anti-migration policies and cautious approach to the Ukraine conflict, showcasing how these have attracted admiration from right-wing figures, including Donald Trump, thus reshaping global conservative politics.