Minna Ålander, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House with a focus on European maritime security, joins to delve into recent incidents damaging underwater infrastructure in the Baltic Sea, possibly linked to Russian sabotage. The conversation highlights NATO’s efforts to enhance maritime security and the implications for civilian life. They discuss Russia's shadow fleet that allows it to bypass sanctions, environmental concerns, and the challenges of attributing responsibility in a landscape fraught with espionage tactics.