The podcast explores the benefits of walking, including its impact on health, urban planning for walkable cities, the empowerment of community walks, and the journey of a 'planet walker'. Guests share insights on the importance of movement breaks, resilience post-stroke, and the deep connection formed through silent walking.

Historian Laine Nooney discusses how the computer revolution changed our bodies. The importance of breaks and physical activity on productivity. Taking movement breaks every half hour decreased blood sugar levels. Sitting all day led to worse mood, but walking breaks reduced anxiety and depressive symptoms.

Today on the flagship podcast of third-party operating systems: The Verge's David Pierce chats with Laine Nooney, author of The Apple II Age: How The Computer Became Personal. Later, lead video producer Will Poor chats with David about The Verge's new documentary Lisa’s Final Act: How Apple invented its future by burying its past.To end the show: a hotline question. How to transfer playlists from Spotify to Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, or TidalEmail us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. We'll be answering a question every Wednesday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices