In this conversation, author Kelly Williams Brown shares her candid insights on mental health and suicide prevention, drawing from her own experiences. She discusses her latest book, *Easy Crafts for the Insane*, and how crafting became a therapeutic outlet during her struggles. Kelly reflects on societal pressures, the complexities of personal relationships, and the importance of seeking help. Her journey reminds us of the power of creativity and community in overcoming adversity and highlights the vital role of gratitude in finding joy.