Karl Vaters, an experienced pastor and author, shares insights on the concept of 'desizing' the church in today’s context. He discusses the obsession with church size and its pitfalls, advocating for a focus on spiritual health rather than numbers. Vaters highlights the unique strengths of both small and large congregations and the unintended consequences of the church growth movement. He also emphasizes the need for genuine leadership and community engagement over simple numerical success.

Author Karl Vaters discusses the unhealthy focus on church size in America, warning of the dangers it poses. He explores the origins of the church growth movement, unintended consequences, and the importance of prioritizing integrity and discipleship in church leadership.