In this enlightening discussion, scholar John Vervaeke, renowned for his expertise in cognitive science, teams up with Jordan Hall, a recent convert to Christianity, to explore pivotal themes of faith. They dive into sensemaking and the intricate dance between the finite and the infinite. The conversation highlights the transformative power of rituals, the interconnectedness of different religious traditions, and the profound implications of grief and love in understanding divine relationships. Together, they challenge conventional notions of faith and urge a deeper exploration of Christianity.

Join John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall as they explore faith, Christian virtues, and the imaginal. They discuss the Trinity, interconnectedness of beliefs, wholesomeness vs. completeness, transcendence in relationships, love, collaboration, and living a profoundly Christian life. Delve into spiritual connections, relationality, and the transformative power of engaging authentically in relationships.

Delve into the evolution of Christianity and the limitations of the scientific worldview. Explore relationality and imaginal engagement for spiritual and intellectual growth. Navigate the cultural conflict between religion and science and the importance of deep dialogue for personal and collective transformation.

Jordan Hall, a recent convert to Christianity from a secular worldview, dives deep into the intersection of faith and technology. He challenges listeners to consider the role of human intent amidst the rise of AI. The conversation touches on the importance of integrating suffering into our understanding of reality and how communal experiences can shape one's faith. Hall advocates for an embodied understanding of spirituality and discusses the transformative power of confession. Ultimately, he emphasizes the necessity of intentional living in a rapidly changing society.

Jordan Hall, a philosophical thinker, dives into the logical necessity of the Holy Trinity, exploring how it informs our relationship with reality. He discusses relational vs. substance ontology, arguing that relationships are paramount in understanding existence. The conversation spans concepts like unity and multiplicity within the Trinity, as well as the implications of multiverses on belief systems. Hall critiques reductionist views and underscores the interconnectedness of all things, advocating for a narrative approach to understanding divine and human relationships.

A philosophical and technical dive with Ttchnologist and systems thinker Jordan Hall into the anthropological drivers of competition, complexity, power structures, and the role of AI in shaping a post-competitive, ”Game B” future.

Writer and thinker Jordan Hall joins Jim Rutt to discuss scaling laws, virtualization of space and communication, reaching the limits of institutional forms, tech hygiene, hierarchies of values, civiums, Jordan's journey to Christianity, the challenges of embodied community, the importance of beauty-first, the essence of the triune God, and the personal journey to believing in a personal God.

Forrest Landry, a thinker on God and choice, joins Jordan Hall, who explores difference and belonging, along with Joey S. Robinson II, a social media philosopher. They dive into the coexistence of diverse beliefs and the importance of meaningful communication in a digital age. The conversation also touches on existential risks, community connections, and the role of confession in spiritual life. They reflect on intuition's layers and its impact on our understanding of reality, all while advocating for unity among differing perspectives.

Deep thinker Jordan Hall discusses creating a more beautiful world, the importance of humility in relationships, missed opportunities for unity during COVID-19, navigating extremism, caring for the environment, technology and warfare, political manipulation in elections, decentralized digital identity, transformative nature of psychedelics, power of exponential growth, essence of design in regions, creating alternate realities, and cultural differences in Southern California and Austin.

Jim talks with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall about Vervaeke's concept of "the religion that is not a religion"... Jim talks with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall about Vervaeke's concept of "the religion that is not a religion." They discuss the need to create a home for ecologies of practices, Jordan and John's ongoing collaboration, the meaning crisis & our wisdom famine, meaning of life vs meaning in life, the category error of prioritizing propositions, limitations of the Axial Age religions, the two worlds mythology, a series of major conceptual involutions, the arising of social engineering, recursion & multi-part toolmaking, challenging the idea that the sacred is supernatural, the imaginal vs the imaginary, disambiguating notions of truth, defining sacred experience, the important & the dangerous, interpreting epiphanies, the ecological notion of rationality, living in the collapse of 19th-century epistemology, the Cartesian promise of certainty, defining religio & equivocation, relevance realization & fundamental connectedness, parallel interventions, the need for both meditative & contemplative practices, folk psychotechnologies, ecologies for communities, religion as the essence of culture, creating birth & death rituals, breastfeeding as religious practice, the question of scaling, creating developmental sequences & pedagogical continuity, embedding Metcalf's law, how practices that increase relationship propagate themselves, the combinatorial feedback loop afforded by shit being fucked, a final sales pitch for young men, and much more. Episode Transcript JRS EP143 - John Vervaeke Part 1 (of 5): Awakening from the Meaning Crisis Awakening from the Meaning Crisis - John Vervaeke (YouTube series) JRS EP26 - Jordan Hall on the Game B Emergence Return to the Source Retreats John Vervaeke is an Associate Professor, in the teaching stream. He has been teaching at the University of Toronto since 1994. He currently teaches courses in the Psychology department on thinking and reasoning with an emphasis on insight problem solving, cognitive development with an emphasis on the dynamical nature of development, and higher cognitive processes with an emphasis on intelligence, rationality, mindfulness, and the Psychology of wisdom. He is the director of the Cognitive Science program where he also teaches courses on the introduction to Cognitive Science, and the Cognitive Science of consciousness wherein he emphasizes 4E (embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended) models of cognition and consciousness. In addition, he teaches a course in the Buddhism, Psychology and Mental Health program on Buddhism and Cognitive Science. He is the director of the Consciousness and the Wisdom Studies Laboratory.  He has won and been nominated for several teaching awards including the 2001 Students’ Administrative Council and Association of Part-time Undergraduate Students Teaching Award for the Humanities, and the 2012 Ranjini Ghosh Excellence in Teaching Award. He has published articles on relevance realization, general intelligence, mindfulness, flow, metaphor, and wisdom. He is first author of the book Zombies in Western Culture:  A 21st Century Crisis, which integrates Psychology and Cognitive Science to address the meaning crisis in Western society. He is the author and presenter of the YouTube series Awakening from the Meaning Crisis. Jordan Hall is the Co-founder and Executive Chairman of the Neurohacker Collective. He is now in his 17th year of building disruptive technology companies. Jordan’s interests in comics, science fiction, computers, and way too much TV led to a deep dive into contemporary philosophy (particularly the works of Gilles Deleuze and Manuel DeLanda), artificial intelligence and complex systems science, and then, as the Internet was exploding into the world, a few years at Harvard Law School where he spent time with Larry Lessig, Jonathan Zittrain and Cornel West examining the coevolutio...