Jon Levitt, a devoted runner and cyclist with deep ties in the running community, joins for a fun and candid chat. They delve into new running gear, Jon's knee injury, and the reality of high-altitude running adventures. The debate heats up over which is harder: a fast marathon or a fast 5K? They also share amusing anecdotes about grasshoppers and discuss the importance of strength training for injury prevention. This lively conversation captures the camaraderie and challenges of life as runners while celebrating milestones in their running journeys.

Two hosts chat about overcoming running struggles, professionalism in the industry, sauna benefits, and plans for the future. They touch on illness, injury recovery, business improvements, and setting high standards in running and business. Discussion also includes ketone science, community engagement, and the importance of sponsor support.