In this episode, the podcast discusses the legacy of Jessie Lee Ward, who passed away after battling with cancer. They talk about the complicated emotions surrounding death and reconnect with Erin Bies. They also interview Megan Carmichael, a death coach, who shares her personal experience and perspectives on death and the fascination that drives her work.

Experienced coach Jessie Lee Ward is interviewed. They discuss Jane's improvement after six months of self-improvement. Topics include the pressures of the American dream, strange deaths in Osage County, coaching styles, and the power of personal transformation.