The Dream S3 E10: We Die The Way We Lived
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Nov 1, 2023 In this episode, the podcast discusses the legacy of Jessie Lee Ward, who passed away after battling with cancer. They talk about the complicated emotions surrounding death and reconnect with Erin Bies. They also interview Megan Carmichael, a death coach, who shares her personal experience and perspectives on death and the fascination that drives her work.
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Discovery Through Social Channels
- Jane Marie learned Jesse Lee had died from texts and social posts rather than from close contacts. This discovery echoed how public figures' health updates can be mediated by outsiders, not themselves.
- Erin Bies and others described the shock that followed given Jesse Lee's recent optimistic live update about scans.
A Public Scan That Contrasted With Decline
- Jessie Lee posted a live saying her PET scan was 'very good news' and that many lymph nodes returned to normal. Days later she passed, creating confusion among followers.
- The contrast between her upbeat video and her rapid decline exemplified how public illness narratives can diverge from private reality.
Cognitive Dissonance From Mixed Messages
- Erin Bies and Jane observed Jessie Lee alternated between holistic protocols and biohacking while declining physically. That pattern created cognitive dissonance for followers who saw optimistic messages but clear physical deterioration.
- The dissonance amplified confusion and led some fans to distrust the reported cause of death.