

S3 E9: Coaching the Uncoachable
13 snips Nov 1, 2023
Experienced coach Jessie Lee Ward is interviewed. They discuss Jane's improvement after six months of self-improvement. Topics include the pressures of the American dream, strange deaths in Osage County, coaching styles, and the power of personal transformation.
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Pre-Interview Anxiety And Moral Dilemma
- Jane described anxious prep before interviewing Jessie Lee because she felt suspicious yet didn't want to be cruel given Jessie Lee's cancer disclosure.
- She worried about balancing accountability with empathy during the call.
Influence Over Income
- Jessie Lee defines being 'number one network marketer' by influence and stage presence rather than purely earnings.
- She frames public visibility and influence as central industry metrics.
From Reluctant Speaker To Trainer
- Jessie Lee recounted being thrust onto stages after a CEO asked her to speak at a regional event and discovering a talent for public speaking.
- She then became a corporate trainer and expanded into paid speaking and coaching.