Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jane Perlez discusses her new podcast exploring U.S.-China relations. Topics include challenges of understanding Xi Jinping, interviews on nuclear issues, Western journalists in China, and the importance of quality diplomacy. The conversation delves into the difficulties of covering China from the outside, meeting Yo-Yo Ma, and future plans for the podcast.

Jane Perlez, a seasoned foreign correspondent for the New York Times and fellow at Harvard's Belfer Center, shares her insights into the declining foreign reporting from China and its implications for U.S.-China relations. She discusses the significant challenges journalists face, including government surveillance and limited access to reliable sources. Perlez also highlights cross-cultural misunderstandings and the misconceptions fueled by media on both sides. As tensions evolve, she reflects on key flashpoints in the relationship between the two superpowers.

In this discussion, Jane Perlez, former Beijing bureau chief for the New York Times, shares her insights on reporting from China between 2012 and 2019. She reveals the alarming decline in press freedom and the obstacles foreign journalists face under Xi Jinping's leadership. Jane highlights the expulsion of journalists in 2018 and the unique strategies reporters must now employ for investigative journalism. She also introduces her podcast, which examines the deteriorating U.S.-China relations, reflecting on pivotal historical events and political dynamics.