Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jane Perlez discusses her new podcast exploring U.S.-China relations. Topics include challenges of understanding Xi Jinping, interviews on nuclear issues, Western journalists in China, and the importance of quality diplomacy. The conversation delves into the difficulties of covering China from the outside, meeting Yo-Yo Ma, and future plans for the podcast.

Jane Perlez, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist with over 30 years at The New York Times, shares her insights on the Global South's response to the U.S.-China rivalry. She discusses how countries in Africa and Asia are navigating pressures from major powers, advocating for independent foreign policies. The conversation dives into perceptions of Western decline, tech dynamics, and the implications of military tensions, notably around Taiwan. Perlez emphasizes the need for nuanced perspectives to counter oversimplified Western narratives.