In this episode we're joined by renowned economist and China expert Keyu Jin to ask whether the West really understands it's biggest geopolitical and economic rival? Keyu Jin was born in China and educated in the United States. She's now a professor of eco­nomics at the London's LSE and author of The New China Playbook which seeks to dispel myths about China's economy and people. You may remember her from our 2019 debate ‘China: Friend or Foe?’ and she joins us again today with Gideon Rachman, Chief Foreign Affairs commentator for the Financial Times.This podcast was Recorded on the 12th of May 2023 in London and was co-produced by Senior Producer Conor Boyle and the The Rachman Review podcast team at the Financial Time. Editing was by Executive Producer Rowan Slaney.—-Our listeners are the heart of Intelligence Squared, and we're always eager to hear from you. Let us know what you'd like us to talk about next, who you think we should invite as guests, and what debates you'd like to hear in the future. You can send us an email or voice note at podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or tweet us at @intelligence2.Our mission is to foster honest debate and compelling conversations worldwide, which is why we offer a wealth of free content every week. We rely on the support of our community to continue our mission, so If you're able, please consider joining us as a member of Intelligence Squared for just £4.99 a month.As a member, you'll have ad-free access to Intelligence Squared podcasts, including exclusive bonus content and early access to new episodes. You'll also receive a 15% discount on all in-person Intelligence Squared events, and you'll get our member-only newsletter, The Monthly Read, delivered straight to your inbox. Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Miranda Green, a savvy political commentator, joins Robert Shrimsley, a political analyst focused on Labour's dynamics, alongside economics editor Sam Fleming, and foreign affairs expert Gideon Rachman. They dissect the unexpectedly muted atmosphere at Labour's conference following a big election win. Discussions include Starmer's efforts in New York to bolster international relations, the challenges of balancing fiscal policies with capital spending, and the impacts of good governance on public perception amidst rising populism.