Flo Crivello, founder of Lindy.ai and former Uber tech specialist, shares insights on transforming AI workflows. He discusses the evolution from Lindy 1.0's complex interfaces to the user-friendly Lindy 2.0, emphasizing visual workflow design. The conversation dives into the challenges of AI customer support, innovations in evaluation tools, and the intense competition in the AI space. Flo also touches on the impact of remote work on company culture and the role of community in thriving within vertical and horizontal AI solutions.

AI development expert Flo Crivello discusses the imminent arrival of AGI, risks of a US-China AI arms race, and complexities of AI safety. The conversation covers regulation, technological progression, and ethical dilemmas facing the AI community.

People have long been imagining AI assistants. Flo Crivello (founder of Teamflow) is turning that dream into a reality with the ambitious project Lindy. Flo sits down with Nathan on Lindy's announcement day to talk about this unique moment in AI, Lindy's capabilities, single-use apps, and how he sees the global impact that AI-powered employees can have on the future of work.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. Anyone who mentions "The Cognitive Revolution" when signing up for the Lindy beta will get priority access. (0:00) Preview (1:05) Sponsor: Omneky (4:50) Flo demos Lindy(9:21) Security and user experience (11:55) How this AI moment compares to the Industrial Revolution and single use apps (15:00) The dream AI assistant (19:54) Competition and advantages of startups (24:28) Cost vs Quality (31:19) How Lindy uses user data (32:37) Context and data injection (28:11) Comfort with ambiguity (43:10) Use of guardrails and trust concerns (47:26) AI safety and edge cases (49:16) Impact on labor markets (50:27) Economic resilience (52:09) Future of work (55:49) Rapid fire questions  SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off. Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack Websites: lindy.ai *mention "The Cognitive Revolution" when you sign up for the waitlist to get priority access* thecognitiverevolution.ai Twitter: @CogRev_Podcast @labenz (Nathan) @Altimor (Flo)RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

Anton Troynikov of Chroma and Flo Crivello of Lindy AI join The Cognitive Revolution cohosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg to debate the issues raised in the AI open letter, which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings.This episode was recorded on March 31st and was first released as a Moment of Zen episode (airing April 1). Subscribe to Moment of Zen for more timely debates like this one!Also, check out the debut of Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream, whose guests in the first two episodes were Balaji Srinivasan and Marc Andreessen. This coming season will feature interviews with Ezra Klein, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more. Subscribe here:Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/3z8TldLSpotify: bit.ly/40letd0We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsLINKS REFERENCED IN EPISODE: Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/TIMESTAMPS:(0:00) Preview of debate(3:10) Introduction from Nathan and explanation of the AI open letter(8:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter(12:14) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter(16:35) Nathan’s support for the open letter(22:52) Sponsor: Omneky(28:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions(34:00) GPT4 is still dangerous(42:30) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history(47:44) Why not pause for 6 months?(56:30) Anton and Flo debate robotics(1:04:30) What we’re all scared of with AI(1:27:45) Is there an asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?TWITTER:@CogRev_Podcast@atroyn (Anton)@labenz (Nathan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@altimor (Flo)SPONSORS:Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/Thank you to Graham Bessellieu for production.

Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview of the debate(00:30) Sponsor(01:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution(03:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI(08:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?(23:45) AI’s effect on coding(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped(35:00) Bounties(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate(01:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”(01:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism(01:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality(01:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?(01:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto(01:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism(01:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE(01:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down(01:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective(01:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective(01:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view(01:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis(01:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum(01:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl(01:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions SPONSORS: Beehiiv | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.