Tina Fordham, a geopolitical strategist and founder of Fordham Global Foresight, dives into the complex implications of tariffs. Historian Alex von Tunzelmann shares intriguing tales from trade conflicts like the Chicken War, illustrating their diplomatic fallout. Elisabeth Braw, from the Atlantic Council, discusses how current trade wars reflect a retreat from globalization, highlighting the emotional struggles of citizens. Together, they unpack whether today's economic tussles are unique or just part of a larger pattern against global interconnectedness.

Heather Conley, a senior advisor at the German Marshall Fund, Elisabeth Braw from the Atlantic Council, and Shashank Joshi, Defence Editor at The Economist, dive into the uncertainties of European defense post-Trump's victory. They explore NATO's challenges, especially the struggle for fair defense spending among member states. The conversation examines Trump's transactional approach and its impact on Europe’s military readiness, alongside the rising threats from Russia and the need for stronger alliances amid changing geopolitical landscapes.

Elisabeth Braw discusses Houthi attacks on global shipping, highlighting the Red Sea crisis's impact on supply chains. The podcast explores the rise of dark fleets, asymmetric warfare risks, and the need for systemic reform in maritime affairs. It delves into global rule-breaking, challenges to trade routes, and the economic implications of a Taiwan conflict on sea-based trade.