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Demis Hassabis discusses scaling AI, adding AlphaZero training atop LLMs, preventing rogue nations from stealing weights, aligning superhuman AIs, and governance. Topics include intelligence explosion, Gemini training, safety, security of weights, and further progress inside Google DeepMind.

Today, I’m talking to Demis Hassabis, the CEO of Google DeepMind, the newly created division of Google responsible for AI efforts across the company. Google DeepMind is the result of an internal merger: Google acquired Demis’ DeepMind startup in 2014 and ran it as a separate company inside its parent company, Alphabet, while Google itself had an AI team called Google Brain. Google has been showing off AI demos for years now, but with the explosion of ChatGPT and a renewed threat from Microsoft in search, Google and Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai made the decision to bring DeepMind into Google itself earlier this year to create… Google DeepMind.What’s interesting is that Google Brain and DeepMind were not necessarily compatible or even focused on the same things: DeepMind was famous for applying AI to things like games and protein-folding simulations. The AI that beat world champions at Go, the ancient board game? That was DeepMind’s AlphaGo. Meanwhile, Google Brain was more focused on what’s come to be the familiar generative AI toolset: large language models for chatbots, and editing features in Google Photos. This was a culture clash and a big structure decision with the goal of being more competitive and faster to market with AI products.And the competition isn’t just OpenAI and Microsoft — you might have seen a memo from a Google engineer floating around the web recently claiming that Google has no competitive moat in AI because open-source models running on commodity hardware are rapidly evolving and catching up to the tools run by the giants. Demis confirmed that the memo was real but said it was part of Google’s debate culture, and he disagreed with it because he has other ideas about where Google’s competitive edge might come into play.We also talked about AI risk and artificial general intelligence. Demis is not shy that his goal is building an AGI, and we talked through what risks and regulations should be in place and on what timeline. Demis recently signed onto a 22-word statement about AI risk with OpenAI’s Sam Altman and others that simply reads, “Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war.” That’s pretty chill, but is that the real risk right now? Or is it just a distraction from other more tangible problems like AI replacing labor in various creative industries? We also talked about the new kinds of labor AI is creating — armies of low-paid taskers classifying data in countries like Kenya and India in order to train AI systems. I wanted to know if Demis thought these jobs were here to stay or just a temporary side effect of the AI boom.This one really hits all the Decoder high points: there’s the big idea of AI, a lot of problems that come with it, an infinite array of complicated decisions to be made, and of course, a gigantic org chart decision in the middle of it all. Demis and I got pretty in the weeds, and I still don’t think we covered it all, so we’ll have to have him back soon.Links:Inside the AI FactoryInside Google’s AI culture clash - The VergeA leaked Google memo raises the alarm about open-source A.I. | FortuneThe End of Search As You Know ItGoogle’s Sundar Pichai talks Search, AI, and dancing with Microsoft - The VergeDeepMind reportedly lost a yearslong bid to win more independence from Google - The VergeTranscript:https://www.theverge.com/e/23542786Credits:Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.Today’s episode was produced by Jackie McDermott and Raghu Manavalan, and it was edited by Callie Wright.The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters, and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Demis Hassabis, a trailblazer in artificial intelligence and co-founder of DeepMind, shares fascinating insights on AI's transformative power. He discusses the surge in public interest and its impact on technological development, including the Gemini AI models and Project Astra. Hassabis delves into the 'unreasonably effective' nature of AI, explaining how transformers redefine our understanding of machine learning. He also highlights the importance of aligning AI advancements with societal needs, especially in the realm of Artificial General Intelligence.

In this enlightening conversation, Demis Hassabis, CEO of DeepMind and a pioneer of AI, joins Nobel laureates Sir Paul Nurse, Jennifer Doudna, and John Jumper. They discuss transformative AI technologies like AlphaFold and CRISPR, emphasizing AI's role in revolutionizing scientific discovery. The panel addresses the importance of human creativity and interdisciplinary collaboration in research, while reflecting on the societal implications of advanced AI. A $20 million funding initiative to foster these collaborations is also unveiled, highlighting the future of science.

Demis Hassabis, Google DeepMind CEO, discusses how AI like AlphaFold is transforming scientific discovery by predicting protein structures. He explores AI's potential to unravel mysteries of the mind, body, and universe, highlighting the benefits and risks of advancing AI technology.

What can the human brain teach us about AI? And what can AI teach us about our own intelligence? These questions underpin a lot of AI research. In this first episode, Hannah meets the DeepMind Neuroscience team to explore these connections and discovers how our brains are like birds’ wings, what training a dog and an AI agent have in common, and why the simplest things for people to do are, paradoxically, often the hardest for machines.If you have a question or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter (@DeepMind using the hashtag #DMpodcast) or email us at podcast@deepmind.com.Further readingBBC: An AI playlistWait But Why: The AI RevolutionCoursera: AI for everyoneMedium: Machine Learning for HumansGoogle Arts & Culture: 25 moments that have defined AIRoyal Society: What is Machine Learning?The Algorithm: A weeklyemail newsletter from MIT Tech ReviewDeepMind blog: neuroscience and AI: a virtuous circleNature: Far-sighted birds plan breakfast the evening beforeInterviewees in this episode: Deepmind CEO and co-founder, Demis Hassabis; Matt Botvinick, Director of Neuroscience Research; research scientists Jess Hamrick and Greg Wayne; and Director of Research, Koray Kavukcuoglu.Credits:Presenter: Hannah FryEditor: David PrestSenior Producer: Louisa FieldProducers: Amy Racs, Dan HardoonBinaural Sound: Lucinda Mason-BrownMusic composition: Eleni Shaw (with help from Sander Dieleman and WaveNet)Commissioned by DeepMind Please like and subscribe on your preferred podcast platform. Want to share feedback? Or have a suggestion for a guest that we should have on next? Leave us a comment on YouTube and stay tuned for future episodes.  

Demis Hassabis, co-founder of Google DeepMind and a renowned AI researcher, speaks on the transformative role of AI in education and its implications. He discusses the Grok-2 update, highlighting its capabilities and risks in image generation. They explore the legal concerns surrounding AI and IP theft, as voiced by an ex-Google CEO. Hassabis also dives into the need for responsible AI integration in schools and the exciting innovations emerging in the field, setting the stage for future education and technology intersections.

Demis Hassabis, Google DeepMind co-founder, discusses the incredible capabilities of AI, like AlphaFold predicting protein structures revolutionizing scientific discovery. Hassabis explores AI's potential in unraveling mysteries of the mind, body, and universe.

Demis Hassabis is one of tech's most brilliant minds. A chess-playing child prodigy turned researcher and founder of headline-making AI company DeepMind, Demis is thinking through some of the most revolutionary — and in some cases controversial — uses of artificial intelligence. From the development of computer program AlphaGo, which beat out world champions in the board game Go, to making leaps in the research of how proteins fold, Demis is at the helm of the next generation of groundbreaking technology. In this episode, he gives a peek into some of the questions that his top-level projects are asking, talks about how gaming, creativity, and intelligence inform his approach to tech, and muses on where AI is headed next. This is an episode of "The TED Interview," a podcast in the TED Audio Collective. It's hosted by author Steven Johnson. To check out the rest of their episodes, including a recent mini-series on the future of human intelligence, follow the show wherever you're listening to this.