Big Technology Podcast Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis + Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin: Scaling AI, AGI Timeline, Simulation Theory
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May 21, 2025 
Demis Hassabis is the CEO of Google DeepMind, a leader in AI and neuroscience-inspired research. Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google, currently focuses on advanced AI models. They explore the cusp of AI breakthroughs, addressing whether scaling is maxed out and the elusive goal of artificial general intelligence (AGI). The duo also discusses how emotional understanding and multimodal capabilities can make AI more intuitive. Lastly, they dive into simulation theory, questioning the nature of reality and consciousness as we approach a potential intelligence explosion.
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Scaling and Algorithms Both Vital
- Progress in AI requires both scaling compute and data centers and algorithmic breakthroughs.
- Algorithmic advances may ultimately outweigh computational gains in importance.
Reasoning Boosts AI Performance
- Adding a reasoning or 'thinking' layer on top of models significantly boosts performance.
- This approach has already shown enormous improvements in game-playing AI like AlphaGo and AlphaZero.
Defining True AGI Consistency
- AGI should be defined as the architectural capability to match the broad range of human intellectual feats.
- Current AI is general but inconsistent, easily showing obvious flaws unlike true AGI.