Google DeepMind: The Podcast The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)
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Dec 16, 2025 
Demis Hassabis, Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind, delves into the future of artificial intelligence and its profound implications. He discusses the monumental progress made with Gemini 3 and the groundbreaking AlphaFold, which transformed materials science. Hassabis explores the complexities of AI learning, from tackling challenging math problems to addressing hallucinations in models. He emphasizes the importance of world models for understanding reality, envisions simulations for societal evolution, and highlights the necessity of thoughtful governance in a rapidly changing landscape.
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Progress From Scaling Plus Research
- DeepMind sees rapid multi-domain progress, combining scaling with scientific innovation.
- Demis says world models and multimodal advances (e.g., Gemini 3) mark a major shift.
AlphaFold As A Root-Node Success
- AlphaFold proved root-node scientific problems can be cracked and applied widely.
- Demis recounts partnerships on fusion and quantum error correction to accelerate energy and computing goals.
Jagged Strengths And Weaknesses
- Current models show 'jagged' intelligence: extreme strengths and surprising basic errors.
- Demis highlights consistency, reasoning, and better use of thinking-time as key gaps to close.