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Dana R. Fisher, a sociologist known for her work on large social movements and climate change, discusses her idea of 'apocalyptic optimism.' She believes that increasing climate disasters will inspire collective action. Fisher shares her journey from technological optimism to recognizing the harsh realities of climate policy failures. She emphasizes the importance of community resilience and highlights grassroots movements that empower individuals to combat climate crises, showcasing how activism can emerge in diverse forms beyond traditional protests.

Dana Fisher, Director of the Center for Environment, Community & Equity at American University, explores the interplay between climate activism and political oppression. She argues that state violence could galvanize public action against climate-deniers. The conversation delves into the impacts of fossil fuels on politics, the dangers of misinformation during crises, and the need for grassroots movements to drive change. Dana discusses how past social movements inform today's energy transitions while emphasizing the power of citizen mobilization in the face of a climate crisis.