Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations

The Apocalyptic Optimist: Dana R. Fisher

Dec 12, 2024

In a deep dive with Dana R. Fisher, a climate activism expert and author of 'Saving Ourselves,' the discussion centers on the harsh realities of climate-induced disasters and their role in mobilizing communities for action. Fisher introduces the concept of 'apocalyptic optimism,' highlighting how hope can coexist with urgent climate challenges. They explore the political dynamics affecting climate policy, the importance of grassroots movements, and how climate shocks reshape public perception and engagement towards a collective response.

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Quick takeaways

Climate shocks such as floods and wildfires are becoming more frequent, driving community engagement and mobilization for climate action.

Increased funding for climate tech in the UK signals potential leadership and innovation in addressing climate challenges amid global uncertainty.

There is a critical need for honest communication between climate scientists and the public to bridge the gap between discourse and scientific consensus.

Deep dives

Hope Amidst Climate Challenges

Despite the alarming reality of climate change, there is a sense of optimism regarding humanity's ability to address these issues. The speaker, Richard Delavan, emphasizes that while some effects of climate change are already irreversible, collective action can still foster positive outcomes. The insight shared highlights the critical importance of community engagement and recognizing the power of individuals mobilizing for change in confronting climate shocks. This sentiment underscores a belief in the potential for grassroots movements to drive significant progress towards environmental sustainability.

Intro

4min

Navigating the Complexities of Climate Communication

2min

Highlights, Aspirations, and Smart Choices for Events

3min

The Dual Nature of Apocalyptic Optimism in Climate Action

2min

Climate Crises and Societal Mobilization

24min

The Role of Natural Disasters in Climate Mobilization

3min

Unexpected Political Dynamics in Climate Disaster Response

5min

Climate Disasters and Community Engagement

25min

Empowerment and Hope in Recovery After Disaster

4min

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Cultivating Hope in Challenging Times

8min

11.

Holiday Humor and Climate Conversations

3min

Author of Saving Ourselves, Professor Dana R. Fisher of American University, helps make sense of where we are as 2024 comes towards its close. And the dilemma that it will have to get worse before it gets better, but there's no other realistic way through.

In this episode, we delve into the pressing issue of climate shocks, which are intensified by climate change and manifest as floods, fires, heat waves, and droughts. As we approach 2025, these disasters are expected to become more frequent and severe across the globe. Join us for an insightful discussion on how these climatic events are already affecting our world and what we can expect in the near future. Happy holidays to everyone, despite the serious topic at hand.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:45 Upcoming Content and Announcements

01:51 Climate Tech and UK Leadership

03:03 Realizations and Reflections on Climate Goals

07:11 Introducing Professor Dana Fisher

07:28 Discussion with Professor Dana Fisher

07:52 The Concept of Apocalyptic Optimism

10:06 The Role of Disasters in Climate Mobilization

14:11 The Anthro Shift Theory

21:14 Political Dynamics and Climate Policy

40:31 Climate Policy and Political Ideologies

41:02 Impact of Climate Shocks on Policy Support

41:16 Challenges of Misinformation and Conspiracy Theories

42:12 Community Resilience and Local Support

42:43 Political Responses to Climate Disasters

44:07 Scientific Analysis and Public Perception

44:49 Relational Connections and Effective Communication

52:29 Lessons from Historical Movements

01:01:58 Building Community Resilience

01:06:00 Hope and Optimism in Climate Action

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The Apocalyptic Optimist: Dana R. Fisher

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