Join best-selling author and historian Peter Frankopan, known for his work on how climate has affected civilization, and broadcaster Chris Packham, a leading conservationist and climate activist. They discuss the importance of learning from history to inform our current climate crisis response. The conversation emphasizes humanity's struggle with change, the need for diverse voices in climate activism, and the power of small individual actions. Through historical lessons, they explore optimism for a sustainable future amidst pressing challenges.

Chris Packham, biologist and presenter, talks about the interconnectedness of species in their habitats, his childhood fascination with the Apollo space program, and the role of AI in conservation. He also discusses the upcoming COP28 conference and the importance of taking action to address environmental issues.

Chris Packham, Wildlife TV presenter and conservationist, discusses his childhood fascination with insects and birds, his experiences with autism, embracing difference through punk rock, the decline in conservation efforts and the need for urgent action, and the importance of effective communication and personal creativity in his career.

Chris Packham joins Nish and Coco to discuss politicians' failures in climate action, advocating for people power to drive change. They question Taylor Swift's carbon footprint and debate Labour's radical climate policy. The podcast explores challenges in meeting environmental targets, promoting nature conservation, and transitioning to renewable energy sources. It also touches on the backlash faced for climate advocacy, the limitations of green capitalism, and the power of collective action to save the planet.

The podcast reflects on conversations about values with guests like Greg Wise and Chris Packham. They explore vulnerability, childhood influences, and the impact of social media on values. Themes of fully aliveness, authenticity, and online spaces are discussed.