A War on Climate Change: Are Environmental Activists Losing The Fight? (Chris Packham)

Nov 27, 2025

In a thought-provoking discussion, conservationist and broadcaster Chris Packham speaks about the urgent need for climate action following the unsuccessful COP climate summit in Brazil. He stresses that conservationists have a crucial role yet have fallen short, advocating for a wartime-style mobilization to tackle the crisis. Chris also highlights the connection between climate change and public health, shares practical steps individuals can take, and opens up about his struggles with neurodiversity and the personal costs of his activism.

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INSIGHT

Climate Breakdown, Not Change

Chris Packham calls the crisis "climate breakdown" because he says it will be catastrophic, not benign.
He argues policymakers lack access to clear scientific truth amid rising misinformation and fossil-fuel lobbying.

ADVICE

Hold Emergency Scientific Briefings

Packham organised a national emergency briefing to present nine scientists' findings directly to MPs, peers and industry leaders.
He urges urgent investment in adaptation, new technologies and jobs to face imminent warming.

INSIGHT

COP Consensus Gives Petrostates Veto Power

Packham explains COP failures stem from consensus rules and petrostate influence blocking a fossil-fuel transition.
He warns absence of strong delegations (like the US) lets petrostates veto meaningful language.

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What does it mean to confront climate change? Amol speaks to broadcaster and campaigner Chris Packham who says conservationists like him have not done enough to protect nature.

After the COP climate summit in Brazil ended without new targets to reduce the use of fossil fuels, he wants the UK government to lead a global emergency action plan as it did in World War Two and during the 2008 financial crisis to address what he calls climate and nature breakdown.

The Springwatch and Winterwatch presenter also highlights the importance of biodiversity, how carbon emissions affect our health, and the practical steps individuals can take to make a difference.

But ultimately he says we need a policy shift, which makes polluters pay.

Chris also speaks candidly about his neurodiversity, his compulsion to speak truth to power and the personal price he pays for his campaigning.

(00:06:27) The scale of the climate crisis

(00:09:22) What he wants the UK government to do

(00:12:23) Why climate change has fallen down the political agenda

(00:14:52) Short term vs long term decisions

(00:20:26) Are net zero policies working?

(00:33:55) Environmentalism as a form of misanthropy

(00:40:14) Radical solutions

(00:44:02) What Chris does to help the environment

(00:45:40) Why he thinks he and other conservationists have failed

(00:48:01) What individuals can do

(00:57:38) The price he’s paid for his campaigning

(00:59:55) Neurodiversity

(01:02:38) Amol’s reflections

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