In this engaging discussion, Jack Schlesinger, a game developer known for Puzmo and Knotwords, joins Brian Bucklew and Jason Grinblat, co-creators of the innovative roguelike Caves of Qud. They dive into the intricate world of post-apocalyptic game design, focusing on the unique blend of procedural generation and narrative depth. The guests share their insights on creating dynamic faction systems and the joys of emergent gameplay, alongside the creative challenges faced during nearly two decades of development. Get ready for a wild journey through an eccentric gaming universe!