Ben Hepburn

In this engaging conversation, Ben Hepburn, a former teacher, wrestling coach, and passionate farmer, joins Lawrence Lessig to explore their differing political views. They reflect on their high school memories while diving into pressing issues like immigration policies and the complexities of H-1B visas. Hepburn shares his journey from athlete to educator and his deep connection to farming, highlighting its impact on his family. The pair emphasizes the importance of civil discourse and seeks common ground in a divided political landscape.