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The Weirdest Book We've Read? - Finite and Infinite Games by James P. Carse

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Sep 8, 2025
Discover the intriguing concepts of finite and infinite games, exploring how these ideas can reshape both personal fulfillment and societal expectations. The hosts reflect on the dense prose of Carse's work while linking it to software engineering and the nuances of technology in relationships. Delve into the tension between genuine human connections and digital interactions, and ponder the implications of AI in modern workflows. This conversation is a thought-provoking blend of philosophy and practicality.
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INSIGHT

Finite Vs Infinite Game Lens

  • Finite games have fixed rules and end with winners, while infinite games change rules to keep play going.
  • Recognizing which game you play helps decide whether you're chasing titles or lifelong meaning.
ANECDOTE

Wrestling Story About Losing Joy

  • Nathan recounts Carse's wrestling story about becoming undefeated and losing joy through fear of losing.
  • The story illustrates how chasing finite wins can destroy intrinsic enjoyment.
INSIGHT

Use The Lens For Career Choices

  • Use the finite/infinite distinction to audit career choices and obligations.
  • Finite stints (e.g., big tech job) can fund an infinite game but should not replace it.
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