A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders

He "kind of" had PMF for 8 years—until, after a rebuild, he raised $100M | Ben Alarie, Founder of Blue J

Oct 20, 2025
Ben Alarie, the Founder and CEO of Blue J, is a tax law professor who revolutionized AI in tax research. He reflects on his journey from having 'partial product-market fit' to achieving remarkable growth, scaling from $2M to $25M in ARR after a bold rebuild. The episode dives into the importance of recognizing true PMF versus self-deception, the game-changing role of retrieval-augmented generation, and how improving 'time to value' has driven rapid customer adoption and word-of-mouth referrals.
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INSIGHT

Partial Product Market Fit Is Misleading

  • Partial PMF feels like real traction but lacks consistent user behavior across cases.
  • Ben calls this 'partial product market fit' because the product solved some issues but failed to be a daily, broad-use tool.
INSIGHT

RAG Turned Research Into Conversational Answers

  • Retrieval augmented generation (RAG) lets an LLM synthesize authoritative legal sources quickly.
  • Ben says RAG replaced slow model-by-model work and simplified the product experience.
INSIGHT

Domain Data + Expertise Beats General Models

  • Horizontal LLMs miss paywalled, authoritative legal content and can be stale.
  • Blue J's value comes from curated, up-to-date legal libraries plus domain focus for expert-level answers.
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