The New Paths Podcast with Dan Johnson #135: How to Outgrow Porn with Drew Boa
Sep 30, 2025
In this enlightening chat, Drew Boa, founder of Husband Material and author of Outgrow Porn, shares his transformative journey from battling his sexuality to embracing it. He introduces the BOA method—Breathe, Observe, Attune—as a practical tool for managing urges. Drew emphasizes the importance of inner-child work and reframing relapses as growth opportunities. He promotes self-compassion and curiosity in the recovery process, encouraging listeners to understand the needs behind their urges, ultimately fostering a healthier relationship with sexuality.
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How The Book Came Together
- Drew wrote Outgrow Porn over four years and assembled tools he'd taught for years into one book.
- He credits taking a month away and broad support as essential to finishing it.
Recovery Is Maturity Not Just Behavior
- Drew Boa says freedom from internet porn came from growing sexually, emotionally, and spiritually, not just stopping behavior.
- This reframes recovery as maturity rather than only behavioral control.
Use BOA To Surf Urges
- Use BOA: Breathe, Observe, Attune to ride urges instead of fighting them.
- Breathe into urges to create space and make decisions you can be proud of.
