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In Our Time

Pope Joan

Feb 27, 2025
Katherine Lewis, an Honorary Professor of Medieval History, and Laura Kalas, a Senior Lecturer in Medieval English Literature, delve into the intriguing legend of Pope Joan, a woman who disguised herself as a man to ascend to the papacy in the 9th century. They discuss how this tale reflects societal gender norms and the evolution of women's roles in the Church. The conversation reveals the intersection of historical fact and fiction and highlights the lasting impact of Pope Joan's story on contemporary discussions about women's leadership and authority within religious contexts.
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  • The legend of Pope Joan illustrates the historical consequences of women attempting to break societal gender norms in a patriarchal church.
  • Pope Joan's story has evolved over time, highlighting the tension between myth and history, and continuing to inspire modern feminist discourse.

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The Legend of Pope Joan

The story of Pope Joan outlines her journey as a woman who disguised herself as a man to pursue education and eventually became Pope in the 9th century. Initially born in Mainz to English parents, she leaves home to study in Athens and excels academically, ultimately gaining a reputation and moving to Rome. Under the name John, she rises through the church ranks to become Pope, serving for over two years until her secret is revealed during a public childbirth, a dramatic turn that emphasizes the societal boundaries placed upon women. The narrative serves as a warning against transgressing traditional gender roles and highlights the historical tension between fact and myth.

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