
The Dave Gerhardt Show The Future of B2B Marketing with Kieran Flanagan
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Jan 5, 2026 Kieran Flanagan, SVP of Marketing at HubSpot and former CMO at Zapier, dives into the transformative impact of AI on B2B marketing. He shares his unique 'two-year mission' framework for meaningful work and discusses the balance between management and creative roles within large teams. Kieran offers insights on how AI shifts marketing from mere answers to actionable strategies, urging marketers to specialize in either technical integration or creative storytelling. He also warns of AI fatigue while celebrating its potential to enhance craft and personalization.
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Two-Year Mission Framework
- Work in two-year missions to earn your stripes and stay motivated.
- Timebox goals so you can see impact and avoid burnout by rotating missions every two years.
YouTube Grind Taught Persistence
- Kieran describes grinding on YouTube pivot that nearly killed him but taught persistence.
- The hard grind separated those who succeeded from those who did not.
Be Clear About How You Work
- Write a 'how to work with me' doc and use AI to surface honest feedback about your style.
- Use push-and-pull: declare quarters you will be in the weeds and expect others to pull you in when needed.

