In this paradigm-shifting episode, Dr. Mike Belkowski sits down with the legendary Dr. Gerald Pollack, world-renowned bioengineering professor and pioneer of “Fourth Phase Water”, also known as EZ (Exclusion Zone) Water. They unpack the revolutionary concept that water in the body exists in a structured, energized form—beyond solid, liquid, and gas—and is central to cellular function, energy production, and health.
You’ll learn how EZ water acts like a biological battery, how red and infrared light build this water structure, and why cancer cells are deficient in it. Dr. Pollack also explores how mitochondrial health, light exposure, grounding, herbal compounds, and hyperbaric oxygen all influence our internal hydration and vitality at a cellular level.
Whether you’re into bioenergetics, red light therapy, or hydration science, this episode is a must-listen.
Topics covered:
• What is EZ Water and how it powers cells
• Why hydration isn’t just about drinking water
• The shocking truth about ATP and cellular energy
• How light, movement, and herbs influence cellular water
• Implications for cancer, chronic disease, and aging
• Dr. Pollack’s upcoming book
Charged
Dr. Gerald H. Pollack is a professor of bioengineering at the University of Washington and a pioneering researcher in the field of water science. He is renowned for his discovery of the “fourth phase of water,” also known as exclusion zone (EZ) water, which exists beyond the traditional solid, liquid, and vapor states. This phase exhibits unique properties that have significant implications for biology, health, and energy.
Beyond his research, Dr. Pollack is the founding editor-in-chief of the scientific journal
WATER and serves as the executive director of the Institute for Venture Science. He also convenes the Annual Conference on the Physics, Chemistry, and Biology of Water. His contributions to science have been recognized with numerous awards, including the Prigogine Medal for thermodynamics, the NIH Director’s Transformative Research Award, and the Emoto Peace Prize.
Dr. Pollack’s work continues to challenge conventional scientific paradigms, offering fresh insights into the fundamental nature of water and its role in life processes.
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As always, light up your health!
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Key Quotes:
“EZ water isn’t just hydration—it’s the real power source of the cell.”
– Dr. Gerald Pollack
“The less EZ water a cell has, the more dysfunction it shows. Cancer is the extreme version of that.”
– Dr. Gerald Pollack
“Everything that supports mitochondrial function—light, oxygen, movement—also supports EZ water.”
– Dr. Mike Belkowski
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Key Points
00:00 – Introduction: Dr. Gerald Pollack & Fourth Phase of Water
02:31 – Dr. Pollack’s Origin Story in Water Research
04:59 – Discovery of EZ Water and Its Implications
09:16 – Health Implications of EZ Water
17:11 – EZ Water as a Cellular Battery
25:29 – Red and Infrared Light’s Role in Building EZ Water
32:33 – EZ Water and Blood Flow in the Cardiovascular System
39:36 – Mitochondria and EZ Water Production
44:54 – Practical Ways to Enhance EZ Water
53:26 – Water Quality and Health
1:01:55 – Grounding and Earth’s Negative Charge
1:03:09 – Movement and EZ Water
1:03:37 – Future of Water Research
1:06:08 – Upcoming Book: Charged
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Where to learn more from and about Dr. Gerald Pollack:
Pollack Lab
Book: The Fourth Phase of Water
Journal of Water
Institute for Venture Science (Pollack’s research foundation)
Water Conference (Annual event hosted by Dr. Pollack)
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