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APEC, ASEAN, and the Trump-Xi Meeting: A Conversation with Henrietta Levin and Gregory Poling

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Nov 6, 2025
Henrietta Levin, a senior fellow at CSIS with a background in U.S. diplomacy, and Greg Poling, director of the Southeast Asia Program at CSIS, delve into the recent Trump-Xi meeting and ASEAN Summit. They explore the surprising absence of Taiwan in discussions, and how both nations are prioritizing economic stability over confrontation. The guests analyze ASEAN's balancing act with new economic initiatives and comment on the muted U.S. presence compared to China's regional ambitions. They highlight what to watch for next in China's trade strategies and maritime tensions.
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Taiwan Was Surprisingly Not Raised

  • The Trump–Xi meeting notably omitted Taiwan, hinting leaders prioritized economic/tactical talk over traditional strategic issues.
  • Henrietta Levin views this omission as unusual and indicative of a reoriented leader-level agenda.
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Trip Valued For 'Do No Harm' Optics

  • The region gave Trump credit for showing up and avoiding harm rather than substantive multilateral engagement.
  • Greg Poling says the trip's success was judged on optics and stability more than deliverables.
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China Claimed The Regional Stability Mantle

  • China pushed a China-ASEAN 3.0 upgrade and many China-ASEAN initiatives to portray itself as guardian of regional stability.
  • Henrietta Levin warns these are incremental but symbolically effective given U.S. disruptions.
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