Henrietta Levin, former Deputy China Coordinator for Global Affairs at the U.S. State Department, and Luis Simón, director at CSDS, dive into U.S.-China relations in this engaging chat. They analyze the impact of the Trump administration's policies on trade and security concerns. The discussion highlights NATO's shifting perspectives on China and the implications of North Korea's growing ties with Russia. Additionally, they explore how geopolitical distractions could lead to aggressive actions in Taiwan and Korea, emphasizing the need for strong leadership in these turbulent times.