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Chatter: Intelligence Analysis, Intuition, and Precognition, with Carmen Medina

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Dec 24, 2024

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Carmen Medina

Carmen Medina, a former senior intelligence officer at the CIA, shares her unique insights from over 30 years in the field. She discusses the essential interplay between analytical thinking and intuition in intelligence analysis. Medina advocates for incorporating precognition, emphasizing its value and the need for personal insights in decision-making. She also delves into the challenges of communicating with policymakers and the significant impact of digital technology on intelligence processes. Her innovative perspectives challenge traditional norms in the intelligence community.

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ANECDOTE

South Africa Prediction

Carmen Medina recalls writing a long-term paper on Sub-Saharan Africa in the 1980s.
The paper accurately predicted the transition to Black majority rule in South Africa by 1990.

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Collaboration vs. Deconfliction

Collaboration is often confused with deconfliction.
True collaboration involves incorporating diverse perspectives, not just avoiding conflicts.

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What is Hizballah?

Medina wrote the first National Intelligence Daily feature on Hezbollah.
She titled it "What is Hizballah?", reflecting the early uncertainty surrounding the group.

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The Year Civilization Collapsed

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Eric Cline's "1177 B.C. : The Year Civilization Collapsed" explores the simultaneous downfall of multiple interconnected Bronze Age civilizations. The book delves into the complex interplay of factors contributing to this catastrophic event, including climate change, famine, invasions, and earthquakes. Cline challenges traditional linear explanations, arguing for a more nuanced understanding of a 'perfect storm' scenario. He examines the impact on various societies, from the Mycenaeans to the Egyptians, and the long-lasting consequences of this systemic collapse. The book offers valuable insights into the fragility of complex societies and the potential lessons for our own time.

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The Chronoliths

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Orbiting the giant hairball

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In 'Orbiting the Giant Hairball,' Gordon MacKenzie explores the challenges of preserving creativity in mature organizations. The book introduces the concept of the 'hairball,' which represents the accumulation of established practices and conformity that can stifle innovation. MacKenzie argues that by 'orbiting' around this hairball, individuals can maintain their unique creative identities while still contributing to the corporate mission. The book is filled with anecdotes, sketches, and practical advice on how to balance creativity with the discipline of business.

The Infidel and the Professor

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Dennis Rasmussen

This book delves into the personal and intellectual relationship between David Hume and Adam Smith, highlighting their contrasting reputations and the significant impact they had on each other's work. Hume, known as 'the Great Infidel,' was a skeptic and social pariah, while Smith was a respected professor of moral philosophy. The book examines their friendship from their first meeting in 1749 until Hume's death, discussing their interactions, intellectual exchanges, and the broader context of the Scottish Enlightenment. Rasmussen provides a nuanced account of their relationship, exploring themes such as their differing views on Christianity and the development of their major works, including Smith's 'The Theory of Moral Sentiments' and 'An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations'

Rebels at Work

A Handbook for Leading Change from Within

Carmen Medina

Debra Cameron

Lois Kelly

This book is designed for 'rebels' at work who aim to create positive change within their organizations. Authors Lois Kelly and Carmen Medina, both experienced in driving change from within, offer practical advice on how to navigate complex corporate environments, avoid common mistakes, and overcome fears. The book emphasizes the importance of future thinking, building support, and managing conflict. It also includes chapters on handling disagreement, rebel self-care, and strategies for effective communication and change implementation. The authors draw from their own experiences and provide numerous examples and practical tips to help rebels achieve their goals without losing their jobs or their sanity.

Carmen Medina defies simple description. She spent more than 30 years at the CIA, rising to the leadership team of the Directorate of Intelligence, despite her iconoclasticism and vociferous evangelism of new technologies. Since retiring more than a decade ago, she has co-written a book about rebelling within bureaucracy--and advocated the exploration of precognition for intelligence purposes.

She joined David Priess for a wide and deep conversation about her analytic and managerial career, the process and pitfalls of analytic coordination, cooperation between US and UK intelligence, the CIA's incorporation of publish-when-ready technology in the late 1990s, the downside of extensive editorial review of analytic products, the importance of including more intuition in intelligence analysis, why precognition should be taken seriously, and more.

Works mentioned in this episode:

The book Rebels At Work by Lois Kelly and Carmen Medina

The book Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

The article by Carmen Medina, "The Potential of Integrating Intelligence and Intuition," Cipher Brief, June 10, 2022.

The book American Cosmic by D. W. Pasulka

The book Orbiting the Giant Hairball by Gordon MacKenzie

The book How To Be a Renaissance Woman by Jill Burke

The book 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by Eric Cline

The book The Infidel and the Professor by Dennis Rasmussen

The book The Ministry of Time by Kaliane Bradley

The book The Chronoliths by Robert Charles Wilson

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.

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