

Why We’re Still at War with Russia
21 snips Mar 26, 2025
Nick Fishwick, a former senior member of the British Foreign Office, and Dave Pitts, a former senior CIA executive specializing in clandestine operations, dive into the complex realities of modern warfare. They discuss Russia's mastery of gray zone tactics, which allow them to meddle internationally without triggering direct conflict. The conversation also explores how Western nations are evolving their strategies in response, analyzing the varied U.S. foreign policy approaches under different administrations and the importance of intelligence sharing amid geopolitical tensions.
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Gray Zone Definition
- The gray zone is the space between peace and war where nations advance interests.
- This happens without triggering military response, causing damage to adversaries.
Russian Interference Examples
- Russia has a history of clandestine interference, including the Litvinenko murder.
- The 2018 Skripal poisoning exemplifies their active measures and disregard for innocent life.
Russia's Negotiation Goals
- Russia's negotiation objectives remain consistent: undermining Ukraine, NATO, and the US relationship.
- Their refusal of a ceasefire and demands for concessions reveal these goals.