The Business of Fashion Podcast

Can a Shop Truly Be a “Third Place”?

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Oct 15, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Kat Chen, the Retail editor at Business of Fashion, explores the trendy concept of ‘third places’ in retail. She dives into how stores are reimagining themselves with seating and in-store cafés to enhance customer experience and community. Chen critiques the notion of using these spaces as mere sales tactics, emphasizing the importance of authentic connections over commercial motives. With insights into successful and failed attempts, she argues for the significance of low-pressure environments in cultivating genuine brand loyalty.
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Original Third Places Were Noncommercial Hubs

  • Ray Oldenburg's third place is a non-commercial social spot like a library, barbershop, or local tavern.
  • Many of those places have been disappearing since the 1980s, which motivated his concept.
INSIGHT

Lingering Beats Destination Food And Drink

  • Retailers now add seating and food to encourage customers to linger rather than to create F&B destinations.
  • When done authentically, these subtle amenities can create community goodwill toward the brand.
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Sales Impact Of Third Places Is Unproven

  • The idea that third places drive retail sales remains unproven and experiential retail lacks hard evidence.
  • Quantifying benefits like dwell time conversion is difficult and often cited from old studies.
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