In this episode, Steven Erlanger, the chief diplomatic correspondent in Europe for The New York Times, discusses Israel's plan to destroy Hamas and the implications for Palestinians and Israelis. The episode explores the evolution of Hamas, Israel's historical approach to dealing with the organization, and the motivations behind the ongoing conflict. It also briefly touches on the Republican House Speaker ousting and speaker selection.
Israel's leaders no longer believe they can coexist with Hamas after recent attacks, leading to a commitment to destroy the group.
Israel faces challenges in distinguishing between civilians and fighters in densely populated Gaza where Hamas is based, making civilian casualties likely in its efforts to destroy the group.
Deep dives
Israel's relationship with Hamas before the attacks
Hamas originated as a charity group but turned to violence and became involved in Palestinian resistance against Israeli occupation. Israel developed a policy of tolerating Hamas, believing that governing responsibilities would moderate the group.
Israel's shift in thinking and plan to destroy Hamas
After a weekend of attacks, Israel no longer wants to manage Hamas as a threat and is committed to destroying it. Israel is preparing a military operation involving artillery, air-power, and infantry. It has called up 300,000 reservists and is gearing up for a sizable and brutal operation.
Challenges and consequences of destroying Hamas
Gaza, where Hamas is based, is densely populated, making urban fighting inevitable. Hamas hides among civilians, hospitals, and mosques, making it difficult for Israel to distinguish between civilians and fighters. Israeli strikes are likely to result in civilian casualties. Israel also faces the dilemma of dealing with Israeli hostages held by Hamas. If successful, killing Hamas leaders may lead to a replacement group and ongoing Palestinian resistance.
For years, Israel’s leaders believed that they could coexist with Hamas. After this weekend’s massacre, that belief is over.
Steven Erlanger, a former Jerusalem bureau chief at The New York Times, explains what Israel’s plan to destroy Hamas will mean for Palestinians and Israelis.
Guest: Steven Erlanger, the chief diplomatic correspondent in Europe for The New York Times.
Background reading:
The attack ended Israel’s hope that Hamas might come to embrace stability. Now senior Israeli officials say that Hamas must be crushed.
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