Investigating the Shift in Israel's Military Strategy Against Hamas

For years, Israel’s leaders believed that they could coexist with Hamas. After this weekend’s massacre, that belief is over.

Steven Erlanger, a former Jerusalem bureau chief at The New York Times, explains what Israel’s plan to destroy Hamas will mean for Palestinians and Israelis.

Guest: Steven Erlanger, the chief diplomatic correspondent in Europe for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• The attack ended Israel’s hope that Hamas might come to embrace stability. Now senior Israeli officials say that Hamas must be crushed.
• Follow The Times’s latest updates on the Israel-Gaza war.

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